Train Sim World 3 Services & Scenarios In Which Gold Cannot Be Achieved

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  1. sequencer2k16

    sequencer2k16 Well-Known Member

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    Since there is the new journey feature "Completed to Gold" in TSW 3,
    I want to find as many services and scenarios as possible in which it is not possible to reach gold.

    In TSW 2 I just went back and forth a few times to get the extra 30 points per 400m but I want to avoid this in TSW 3.
    For this reason I have not transferred my TSW 2 progress to TSW 3.

    I hope DTG will pay attention to this thread and gradually make it possible for us
    to achieve "Completed to Gold" in all journeys and Gold in all services and scenarios.

    My main focus is on "Completed to Gold", but I will of course include all other services & scenarios too.
    If someone should find mistakes or would like to contribute, go ahead, the more the better.

    Here we go:

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    I have stopped supporting the list, you can find the reason in post #111

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    ARL - Arosalinie: Chur - Arosa


    Journey mode

    Scenario: Waterlogged - Bronze 4500, Silver 7900, Gold 8600
    Chapter: Introductions & Experience (Anniversary Collection) - Loco: RhB Ge 4/4 II 623 Anni-Jahre
    Maximum achievable points: about 7763 = Bronze​

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    BCC - Birmingham Cross-City Line: Lichfield - Bromsgrove & Redditch



    Journey mode

    Class 323 Introduction
    - Bronze 1000, Silver 1400, Gold 1800
    Chapter: Bull by the Horns - Loco: Class 323 WMR
    Maximum achievable points: 1650 = Silver >>> FIXED <<<

    Service: 5P15 Birmingham New Street to Lichfield Trent Valley - Bronze 500, Silver 2450, Gold 2800
    Chapter: Glass and a Half - Loco: Class 323 WMR
    Maximum achievable points: 2600 = Silver

    Service: 5U11 Birmingham New Street to Four Oaks - Bronze 750, Silver 2100, Gold 2400
    Chapter: Blinded by the Lights - Loco: Class 323 WMR
    Maximum achievable points: 1970 = Bronze

    Service: 5U02 Birmingham New Street to Four Oaks - Bronze 750, Silver 2100, Gold 2350
    Chapter: Black over Bill's Mother's - Loco: Class 323 WMR
    Maximum achievable points: about 1965 = Bronze


    Timetable mode


    Service: 5B04 Birmingham New Street to Blake Street - Bronze 750, Silver 2300, Gold 2600
    Loco: Class 323 WMR
    Maximum achievable points: 2,290 = Bronze

    Service: 0E23 St Philips Marsh to Doncaster Works - Bronze 500, Silver 1650, Gold 1900
    Loco: Class 43 GWR
    Maximum achievable points: 1550 = Bronze

    Service: 5E23 St Philips Marsh to Doncaster Works - Bronze 500, Silver 1650, Gold 1900
    Loco: Class 43 GWR
    Maximum achievable points: 1550 = Bronze

    Service: 0V84 Doncaster Works to Laira Depot - Bronze 500, Silver 1650, Gold 1850
    Loco: Class 43 GWR
    Maximum achievable points: 1550 = Bronze

    Service: 4V44 Daventry to Wentloog - Bronze 500, Silver 1700, Gold 1900
    Loco: Class 66 EWS
    Maximum achievable points: 1550 = Bronze​

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    BKL - Bakerloo Line


    Timetable mode

    Service: 201D-1 Stonebridge Park Depot - Stonebridge Park - Bronze 750, Silver 1350, Gold 1450
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1972 MkII Tube Stock LU
    Maximum achievable points: 1030 = Bronze

    Service: 231-1 London Road - Lambeth North Shunt - Bronze 500, Silver 1100, Gold 1200
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1972 MkII Tube Stock LU
    Maximum achievable points: 560 = Bronze

    Service: 232-1 London Road - Lambeth North Shunt - Bronze 750, Silver 1350, Gold 1450
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1972 MkII Tube Stock LU
    Maximum achievable points: 1060 = Bronze

    Service: 221D-1 Queen's Park - Stonebridge Depot - Bronze 1000, Silver 2050, Gold 2250
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1972 MkII Tube Stock LU
    Maximum achievable points: 1910 = Bronze

    Service: 233-1 London Road - Lambeth North Shunt - Bronze 750, Silver 1350, Gold 1450
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1972 MkII Tube Stock LU
    Maximum achievable points: 1060 = Bronze

    Service: 234-1 London Road - Lambeth North Shunt - Bronze 750, Silver 1350, Gold 1450
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1972 MkII Tube Stock LU
    Maximum achievable points: 1060 = Bronze

    Service: 206D-1 Stonebridge Park - Kilburn High Road - Bronze 500, Silver 1200, Gold 1350
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1972 MkII Tube Stock LU
    Maximum achievable points: 950 = Bronze
    1938 Tube Stock causes problems in timetable mode, shunting signal H does not turn white.
    If the 1938 Tube Stock is uninstalled, 206D-1 can be completed in timetable mode without problems.


    Service: 226D-1 Queen's Park South Shed - Queen's Park North Shed - Bronze 500, Silver 860, Gold 950
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1972 MkII Tube Stock LU
    Maximum achievable points: 530 = Bronze

    Service: 227-1 Queen's Park South Shed - Queen's Park North Shed - Bronze 500, Silver 850, Gold 950
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1972 MkII Tube Stock LU
    Maximum achievable points: 530 = Bronze

    Service: 206D-2 Kilburn High Road - Stonebridge Park - Bronze 500, Silver 1200, Gold 1350
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1972 MkII Tube Stock LU
    Maximum achievable points: 950 = Bronze

    Service: 746-2 Acton Depot to Piccadilly Circus - Bronze 500, Silver 1200, Gold 1350
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1938 Tube Stock LT
    Maximum achievable points: 960 = Bronze

    Service: 746-4 Stonebridge Park - Kilburn High Road - Bronze 500, Silver 1200, Gold 1350
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1938 Tube Stock LT
    Maximum achievable points: 950 = Bronze

    Service: 746-5 Kilburn High Road - Stonebridge Park - Bronze 1000, Silver 2150, Gold 2350
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1938 Tube Stock LT
    Maximum achievable points: 2010 = Bronze

    Service: 746-6 Stonebridge Park - Kilburn High Road - Bronze 500, Silver 1200, Gold 1350
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1938 Tube Stock LT
    Maximum achievable points: 950 = Bronze

    Service: 746-7 Kilburn High Road - Harrow & Wealdstone - Bronze 1000, Silver 2450, Gold 2750
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1938 Tube Stock LT
    Maximum achievable points: 2460 = Silver

    Service: 746-8 Harrow & Wealdstone - London Road Depot - Bronze 1000, Silver 3050, Gold 3450
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1938 Tube Stock LT
    Maximum achievable points: 3240 = Silver

    Service: 746-11 London Road Depot to West Hampstead - Bronze 750, Silver 1400, Gold 1550
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1938 Tube Stock LT
    Maximum achievable points: 1390 = Bronze

    Service: 747-3 Aldwych to Elephant & Castle South Siding - Bronze 500, Silver 1200, Gold 1350
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1972 MkII Tube Stock LT 4 Car
    Maximum achievable points: 980 = Bronze

    Service: 747-6 Elephant & Castle South Siding to Aldwych - Bronze 500, Silver 1200, Gold 1350
    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021 - Loco: 1972 MkII Tube Stock LT 4 Car
    Maximum achievable points: about 947 = Bronze
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    BRO - Bahnstrecke Bremen - Oldenburg


    Journey mode

    BR 110 Introduction
    - Bronze 1000, Silver 1500, Gold 2000
    Chapter: n-Gage - Loco: BR 110 DB
    Maximum achievable points: 1930 = Silver

    Service: DGS 88994 Emden Rbf - Bremen Rbf - Bronze 500, Silver 3200, Gold 3750
    Chapter: Freighting Room - Loco: BR 155 PRESS
    Maximum achievable points: about 3585 = Silver


    Timetable mode

    Service: RB Bremen Sidings - Bremen Hbf - 1000, Silver 1500, Gold 2000
    Loco: BR 110 DB
    Maximum achievable points: 1030 = Bronze

    Service: RB Oldenburg (Oldb) Hbf Sidings - Oldenburg (Oldb) Hbf (04:52) - Bronze 750, Silver 1350, Gold 1450
    Loco: BR 110 DB
    Maximum achievable points: 1060 = Bronze

    Service: EZ 51565 Maschen Rbf - Emden Rbf - Bronze 500, Silver 3350, Gold 3900
    Loco: BR 110 DB
    Maximum achievable points: about 3766 = Silver
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    CJP - Cajon Pass: Barstow - San Bernardino


    Journey mode

    ES44C4 Training Module
    - Bronze 1100, Silver 1300, Gold 1500
    Chapter: Rookie - Loco: BNSF ES44C4
    Maximum achievable points: Stuck at 1370 = Silver
    Has been fixed and you can earn enough points for gold,
    but the score does not update for players who completed the training before the fix.

    SD40-2 Training Module - Bronze 1200, Silver 1500, Gold 1700
    Chapter: The Switcher - Loco: BNSF SD40-2
    Maximum achievable points: Stuck at 1620 = Silver
    Has been fixed and you can earn enough points for gold,
    but the score does not update for players who completed the training before the fix.
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    GWB - Diesel Legends of the Great Western



    Journey mode

    Scenario: Fix Up - Bronze 1500, Silver 1750, Gold 2000
    Chapter: Put a Gronk on it - Loco: Class 08 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: 1800 = Silver

    Service: 1C07 Penzance - Bronze 3500, Silver 7300, Gold 8050
    Chapter: Put a Gronk on it - Loco: Class 52 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: about 6514 = Bronze

    Service: 1C03 Penzance - Bronze 3500, Silver 7300, Gold 8050
    Chapter: Spaghetti Western - Loco: Class 52 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: about 6433 = Bronze

    Service: 1A03 London Paddington - Bronze 3250, Silver 7050, Gold 7800
    Chapter: Spaghetti Western - Loco: Class 52 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: about 5713 = Bronze

    Service: 1C23 Bristol Temple Meads - Bronze 3500, Silver 7300, Gold 8050
    Chapter: Spaghetti Western - Loco: Class 52 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: about 6455 = Bronze

    Service: 1A27 London Paddington - Bronze 3250, Silver 7050, Gold 7800
    Chapter: Spaghetti Western - Loco: Class 52 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: 5790 = Bronze

    Service: 1C31 Bristol Temple Meads - Bronze 3500, Silver 7300, Gold 8050
    Chapter: Spaghetti Western - Loco: Class 52 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: 6540 = Bronze

    Service: 1A49 London Paddington - Bronze 3250, Silver 7050, Gold 7800
    Chapter: Spaghetti Western & Blue Skies - Loco: Class 52 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: about 5716 = Bronze

    Service: 1A59 London Paddington - Bronze 3250, Silver 7050, Gold 7800
    Chapter: Spaghetti Western - Loco: Class 52 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: 5760 = Bronze

    Service: 1B13 Swansea - Bronze 3500, Silver 7300, Gold 8050
    Chapter: Spaghetti Western - Loco: Class 52 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: 6540 = Bronze

    Service: 1C29 Bristol Temple Meads - Bronze 3500, Silver 7300, Gold 8050
    Chapter: Blue Skies - Loco: Class 52 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: 6540 = Bronze

    Service: 1A57 London Paddington - Bronze 3250, Silver 7050, Gold 7800
    Chapter: Blue Skies - Loco: Class 52 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: 5760 = Bronze

    Service: 1C33 Bristol Temple Meads - Bronze 3500, Silver 7300, Gold 8050
    Chapter: Blue Skies - Loco: Class 52 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: 6540 = Bronze

    Service: 1B11 Swansea - Bronze 3500, Silver 7300, Gold 8050
    Chapter: Blue Skies - Loco: Class 52 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: 6540 = Bronze​

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    HAR - Harlem Line: Grand Central Terminal - North White Plains


    Timetable mode

    Service: GCT Yard Move (Part 1) - Bronze 250, Silver 500, Gold 550
    Loco: M3A MTA
    Maximum achievable points: 530 = Silver​

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    IOW - Isle Of Wight: Ryde - Shanklin


    Journey mode

    Scenario: Smallbrook Shuttle - Bronze 1500, Silver 3500, Gold 3900
    Chapter: Introductions & Experience - Loco: Class 483
    Maximum achievable points: 3650 = Silver
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    KWG - Schnellfahrstrecke Kassel - Würzburg


    Journey mode

    Service: 42864 Salzburg Liefering - Dradenau (Part 1) - Bronze 500, Silver 4500, Gold 5300
    Chapter: Worth the Freight - Loco: BR 185.2 Railion
    Maximum achievable points: about 5181 = Silver

    Service: 42864 Salzburg Liefering - Dradenau (Part 2) - Bronze 500, Silver 2750, Gold 3250
    Chapter: Making TRAXX - Loco: BR 185.2 Railion
    Maximum achievable points: 2750 = Silver

    Service: 50244 Ludwigshafen - Hamburg Billwerder - Bronze 750, Silver 6750, Gold 7950
    Chapter: Making TRAXX - Loco: BR 185.2 Railion
    Maximum achievable points: 7690 = Silver
    The times do not fit and are impossible to manage, already at the beginning of the service you get a lot of delay due to the extremely long waiting times at red signals. I guess that's why there are too few points.

    Service: 69161 Hamburg Waltershof - Beimerstetten (Part 1) - Bronze 500, Silver 4800, Gold 5650
    Chapter: Red-eye Freight - Loco: BR 185.2 Railion
    Maximum achievable points: 5450 = Silver

    Service: 69161 Hamburg Waltershof - Beimerstetten (Part 2) - Bronze 500, Silver 2450, Gold 2850
    Chapter: Red-eye Freight - Loco: BR 185.2 Railion
    Maximum achievable points: 2330 = Bronze


    Timetable mode

    Service: 50245 Hamburg Billwerder - Ludwigshafen - Bronze 500, Silver 6100, Gold 7250
    Loco: BR 185.2 Railion
    Maximum achievable points: 7190 = Silver

    Service: 43165 Dradenau - Kufstein (Part 1) - Bronze 500, Silver 4950, Gold 5850
    Loco: BR 185.2 Railion
    Maximum achievable points: 5690 = Silver
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    LBN - Brighton Main Line: London Victoria - Brighton (London Commuter)


    Journey mode

    Service: 1M15 Brighton to London Victoria - Bronze 2750, Silver 11900, Gold 13750
    Chapter: Capital to Coast - Loco: Class 387/2 GX
    Maximum achievable points: about 11063 = Bronze


    Timetable mode

    Service: 5B90 Selhurst T&R.S.M.D to Lovers Walk T&R.S.M.D (Part 3) - Bronze 500, Silver 1150, Gold 1250
    Loco: Class 313/2 SN
    Maximum achievable points: about 1090 = Bronze

    Service: FRGT Ardingly Wagon Swap - Bronze 2500, Silver 3450, Gold 3650
    Loco: Class 66 EWS
    Maximum achievable points: about 3620 = Silver​

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    LFR - Linke Rheinstrecke: Mainz-Koblenz


    Journey mode

    BR 110 Introduction
    - Bronze 1000, Silver 1500, Gold 2000
    Chapter: Breaker Box - Loco: BR 110 DB
    Maximum achievable points: 1930 = Silver
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    LGV - LGV Méditerranée: Marseille - Avignon


    Journey mode

    Service: Leave Depot (14:20) - Bronze 250, Silver 500, Gold 550
    Chapter: Setting In & Living the Dream - Loco: TGV Duplex 200 CM
    Maximum achievable points: 530 = Silver


    Timetable mode

    Service: Leave Depot (09:40) - Bronze 250, Silver 500, Gold 550
    Loco: TGV Duplex 200 CM
    Maximum achievable points: 530 = Silver​

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    LIRR - Long Island Rail Road: New York - Hicksville


    Journey mode

    Scenario: Hicksville Handler - Bronze 3750, Silver 8750, Gold 9750
    Chapter: M3 Engineer - Loco: M3 LIRR
    Maximum achievable points: about 9488 = Silver
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    LZN - Zentralschweiz: Luzern - Sursee



    Journey mode

    Scenario: The Shower Express - Bronze 3500, Silver 7050, Gold 7800
    Chapter: Introduction & Experience - Loco: RABe 523
    Maximum achievable points: about 7169 = Silver
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    MSB - Main-Spessart Bahn: Aschaffenburg - Gemünden


    Journey mode

    Service: DB 83126 Laufach - Heigenbrücken - Bronze 500, Silver 1050, Gold 1200
    Chapter: Banker - Loco: BR 185.2 Railion
    Maximum achievable points: 1010 = Bronze

    Service: DB 83158 Laufach - Heigenbrücken - Bronze 500, Silver 1100, Gold 1200
    Chapter: Banker - Loco: BR 185.2 Railion
    Maximum achievable points: 1010 = Bronze

    Service: DB 83146 Laufach - Heigenbrücken - Bronze 500, Silver 1100, Gold 1200
    Chapter: Driver - Loco: BR 185.2 Railion
    Maximum achievable points: 1010 = Bronze

    Service: DB 83114 Laufach - Heigenbrücken - Bronze 500, Silver 1100, Gold 1200
    Chapter: Driver - Loco: BR 185.2 Railion
    Maximum achievable points: 1010 = Bronze

    Scenario: Hafenbahnhof Order - Bronze 3250, Silver 3750, Gold 3850
    Chapter: DB BR 204 Engineer - Loco: BR 204
    Maximum achievable points: 3300 = Bronze

    Scenario: Hafenbahnhof Dock Delivery - Bronze 3000, Silver 4550, Gold 4900
    Chapter: DB BR 204 Engineer - Loco: BR 204
    Maximum achievable points: about 4787 = Silver
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    NEC BP - Northeast Corridor: Boston - Providence (Boston Sprinter)


    Journey mode

    Scenario: I Just Cleaned There - Bronze 6000, Silver 8000, Gold 10000
    Chapter: After Dark - Loco: Acela Express Amtrak
    Maximum achievable points: about 9688 = Silver

    Timetable mode

    Service: MBTA Providence #815 (Depot - Boston) - Bronze 0, Silver 150, Gold 150
    Loco: F40PH-3C MBTA
    Maximum achievable points: 0 = Bronze
    This service is special and starts with the request to get out.
    However, nothing happens because not the F40PH-3C has the trigger, but the CTC-3 Cab Car at the other end of the train.
    If you switch to the CTC-3 Cab Car and get out, you end the service with zero points because you did not drive a single ft.

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    NID - Niddertalbahn: Bad Vilbel - Stockheim


    Journey Mode

    BR 628.2 Introduction - Bronze 1000, Silver 1500, Gold 2000
    Chapter: A Slow Start - Loco: DB BR 628.2
    Maximum achievable points: 1930 = Silver

    Scenario: Prep Work - Bronze 2000, Silver 3700, Gold 4050
    Chapter: Preparation - Loco: DB BR 628.2
    Maximum achievable points: 4040 = Silver

    Service: RB Stockheim Service Preparation (Part 1) - Bronze 500, Silver 850, Gold 950
    Chapter: Preparation - Loco: DB BR 628.2
    Maximum achievable points: 530 = Bronze
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    NTP - Northern Trans-Pennine: Manchester - Leeds


    Journey mode

    Service: Travelling Post Office - Bronze 1000, Silver 5600, Gold 6500
    Chapter: Locomotive Driver - Loco: Class 47/4 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: 6130 = Silver


    Timetable mode

    Service: NH06 - BG's to Manchester Victoria - Bronze 1250, Silver 2250, Gold 2500
    Loco: Class 40 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: 2330 = Silver
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    NYT - Northeast Corridor: New York - Trenton

    Journey mode

    Amfleet Cab Car Introduction - Bronze 900, Silver 1400, Gold 2000
    Chapter: Metro Mover - Loco: Amfleet Cab Car
    Maximum achievable points: 1950 = Silver

    Scenario: Cab to the Race - Bronze 2400, Silver 5000, Gold 7100
    Chapter: Levelling Up - Loco: Multi-Level Commuter Cab Car NJT
    Maximum achievable points: about 6609 = Silver​

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    OSD - Canadian National Oakville Subdivision: Hamilton - Oakville



    Journey mode

    Service: Y912 Victoria Avenue Loading - Bronze 1500, Silver 2900, Gold 3200
    Chapter: GP9RM Engineer - Loco: GP9RM CN
    Maximum achievable points: 3040 = Silver

    Scenario: Break It Down - Bronze 5000, Silver 7300, Gold 7800
    Chapter: GP9RM Engineer - Loco: GP9RM CN
    Maximum achievable points: 7670 = Silver

    Scenario: Petrochemical Chaos - Bronze 8750, Silver 13350, Gold 14300
    Chapter: GP9RM Engineer - Loco: GP9RM CN
    Maximum achievable points: 14210 = Silver


    Timetable mode

    Service: Y911 Hobson Street Loading - Bronze 1500, Silver 2750, Gold 3000
    Loco: GP38-2 CN
    Maximum achievable points: 2860 = Silver​

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    RSN - Ruhr-Sieg Nord: Hagen - Finnentrop


    Journey mode

    Scenario: Freight Exchange - Bronze 2500, Silver 4850, Gold 5350
    Chapter: Freight Driver - Loco: BR 185.2 DB
    Maximum achievable points: 5110 = Silver

    Service: DB 80103 Hagen - Boele - Bronze 1750, Silver 3300, Gold 3650
    Chapter: Freight Driver - Loco: BR 185.2 DB
    Maximum achievable points: 3500 = Silver

    Scenario: Returning Empty - Bronze 1250, Silver 3150, Gold 3550
    Chapter: Freight Driver - Loco: BR 185.2 DB
    Maximum achievable points: 3510 = Silver

    Service: RB56 Iserlohn - Hagen (11:09) - Bronze 1000, Silver 2900, Gold 3300
    Chapter: Passenger Driver - Loco: 767.2 DABpbzfa DB
    Maximum achievable points: 3280 = Silver

    Service: RB56 Iserlohn - Hagen (17:09) - Bronze 1000, Silver 2900, Gold 3300
    Chapter: Passenger Driver - Loco: 767.2 DABpbzfa DB
    Maximum achievable points: 3280 = Silver

    Service: RB56 Iserlohn - Hagen (14:09) - Bronze 1000, Silver 2900, Gold 3300
    Chapter: Passenger Driver - Loco: 767.2 DABpbzfa DB
    Maximum achievable points: 3280 = Silver​

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    SEHS - Southeastern Highspeed: London St Pancras – Ashford Intl & Faversham



    Journey mode

    Service: 5U93 Ramsgate Depot to Slade Green Depot - Bronze 750, Silver 4700, Gold 5450
    Chapter: Alright on the Night - Loco: Class 375/9 SEB
    Maximum achievable points: about 5253 = Silver

    Service: 5J84 Ashford Int'l to St Pancras Int'l - Bronze 500, Silver 6100, Gold 7200
    Chapter: Snow Joke - Loco: Class 395 SEB
    Maximum achievable points: 7190 = Silver

    Service: 4Z61 Ramsgate to Rochester Up Layby Sidings - Bronze 500, Silver 2700, Gold 3100
    Chapter: Route 66 - Loco: Class 66 EWS
    Maximum achievable points: 2910 = Silver

    Service: 6Y08 Tolworth Siding to Grain Aggregates (Part 1) - Bronze 750, Silver 2600, Gold 3000
    Chapter: Route 66 - Loco: Class 66 EWS
    Maximum achievable points: about 2501 = Bronze

    Service: 0Z02 Kensington Olympia to Kensington Olympia (Part 3) - Bronze 500, Silver 1950, Gold 2250
    Chapter: They Think It's All Over - Loco: Class 66 EWS
    Maximum achievable points: 1870 = Bronze

    Service: 0Y67 Hoo Junction Up Yard to Eastleigh East Yard - Bronze 500, Silver 1400, Gold 1550
    Chapter: They Think It's All Over - Loco: Class 66 EWS
    Maximum achievable points: about 1091 = Bronze

    Service: 6M95 Grain Aggregates to Neasden Engineering Sidings - Bronze 750, Silver 2600, Gold 3000
    Chapter: They Think It's All Over - Loco: Class 66 EWS
    Maximum achievable points: about 2726 = Silver

    Service: 6Y71 Tonbridge West Yard to Grain Aggregates - Bronze 500, Silver 2000, Gold 2300
    Chapter: They Think It's All Over - Loco: Class 66 EWS
    Maximum achievable points: about 1795 = Bronze

    Service: 6Y49 Tonbridge West Yard to Hoo Junction Up Yard - Bronze 1250, Silver 2400, Gold 2650
    Chapter: It Is Now! - Loco: Class 66 EWS
    Maximum achievable points: about 2426 = Silver

    Service: 6Y44 Grain Aggregates to Crawley New Yard - Bronze 500, Silver 2000, Gold 2300
    Chapter: It Is Now! - Loco: Class 66 EWS
    Maximum achievable points: about 1848 = Silver

    Service: 3W74 Tonbridge West Yard to Tonbridge West Yard (Part 1) - Bronze 500, Silver 1700, Gold 1950
    Chapter: Pulling a Shed - Loco: Class 66 EWS (RHTT)
    Maximum achievable points: 1590 = Bronze

    Service: 3S76 Tonbridge Engineers Siding to Tonbridge Engineers Siding (Part 1) - Bronze 500, Silver 2300, Gold 2650
    Chapter: Pulling a Shed - Loco: Class 66 EWS (RHTT)
    Maximum achievable points: about 2237 = Bronze

    Service: 3S76 Tonbridge Engineers Siding to Tonbridge Engineers Siding (Part 2) - Bronze 750, Silver 2950, Gold 3400
    Chapter: Pulling a Shed - Loco: Class 66 EWS (RHTT)
    Maximum achievable points: about 2996 = Silver

    Service: 3S75 Tonbridge Engineers Siding to Tonbridge Engineers Siding (Part 3) - Bronze 500, Silver 2700, Gold 3150
    Chapter: Pulling a Shed - Loco: Class 66 EWS (RHTT)
    Maximum achievable points: 2720 = Silver

    Service: 8X02 Fawkham Junction to Fawkham Junction (Part 1) - Bronze 500, Silver 3750, Gold 4400
    Chapter: Pulling a Shed - Loco: Class 66 EWS (RHTT)
    Maximum achievable points: about 4154 = Silver

    Service: 8X02 Fawkham Junction to Fawkham Junction (Part 5) - Bronze 500, Silver 2900, Gold 3400
    Chapter: Pulling a Shed - Loco: Class 66 EWS (RHTT)
    Maximum achievable points: 3050 = Silver


    Timetable mode

    Service: Le Français Formidable: 9Z21 Marseille St Charles to St Pancras Int'l - Bronze 1000, Silver 3950, Gold 4550
    Loco: TGV Duplex 200 CM
    Maximum achievable points: about 4352 = Silver

    Service: 5Z12 The Charity Javelin (Part 1) - Bronze 500, Silver 900, Gold 1000
    Loco: Class 395 SEB
    Maximum achievable points: 560 = Bronze

    Service: 1Z13 The Charity Javelin (Part 4) - Bronze 500, Silver 2400, Gold 2800
    Loco: Class 395 SEB
    Maximum achievable points: 2300 = Bronze

    Service: 5T06 Gillingham to Strood (Part 1) - Bronze 500, Silver 850, Gold 950
    Loco: Class 375/9 SEB
    Maximum achievable points: 530 = Bronze

    Service: 2K16 London Victoria to Gillingham - Bronze 1250, Silver 2400, Gold 2600
    Loco: Class 375/9 SEB
    Maximum achievable points: 2520 = Bronze

    Service: 5D64 Gravesend to Grove Park Sidings - Bronze 500, Silver 1650, Gold 1900
    Loco: Class 465/9 SEW
    Maximum achievable points: about 1333 = Bronze

    Service: 5T04 Gillingham to Strood (Part 1) - Bronze 500, Silver 850, Gold 950
    Loco: Class 465/9 SEW
    Maximum achievable points: about 530 = Bronze

    Service: 6E92 Grain Aggregates to Ferme Park - Bronze 500, Silver 2000, Gold 2300
    Loco: Class 66 EWS
    Maximum achievable points: 1950 = Bronze

    Service: 6O04 Acton T.C. to Grain Oil Terminal - Bronze 500, Silver 2000, Gold 2300
    Loco: Class 66 EWS
    Maximum achievable points: 2010 = Silver

    Service: 8X02 Fawkham Junction to Fawkham Junction (Part 2) - Bronze 500, Silver 5600, Gold 6650
    Loco: Class 66 EWS (RHTT)
    Maximum achievable points: 6560 = Silver
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    SMH - Sherman Hill: Cheyenne - Laramie

    Journey mode

    Scenario: Dust or Bust - Bronze 2000, Silver 6250, Gold 7100
    Chapter: Heritage Hill Climbs - Loco: SD70ACe MP
    Maximum achievable points: 6440 = Silver
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    SPG - Sand Patch Grade


    Journey mode

    Service: U876-B - Coal - Loading at Shaw Mine - Bronze 1250, Silver 2150, Gold 2350
    Chapter: Big Power - Loco: AC4400CW YN3b
    Maximum achievable points: 1890 = Bronze

    Service: U877-B - Coal - Loading at Shaw Mine - Bronze 1250, Silver 2150, Gold 2350
    Chapter: Coal Collector - Loco: C40-8W YN2
    Maximum achievable points: 1890 = Bronze​

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    TVL - Tees Valley Line: Darlington - Saltburn-by-the-Sea


    Journey mode

    Service: 5D50 Thornaby Depot - Darlington - Bronze 500, Silver 1950, Gold 2250
    Chapter: BR Class 101 Driver - Loco: Class 101 BLG
    Maximum achievable points: about 2188 = Silver

    Scenario: Three Becomes Two - Bronze 5750, Silver 8600, Gold 9200
    Chapter: BR Class 08 Driver - Loco: Class 08 BLU
    Maximum achievable points: about 8749 = Silver
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    WCL - West Cornwall Local: Penzance - St Austell & St Ives



    Journey mode

    Class 150 Introduction
    - Bronze 250, Silver 550, Gold 600
    Chapter: Introduction & Experience - Loco: Class 150/2 REG
    Maximum achievable points: 540 = Bronze​

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    WSR - West Somerset Railway


    Training Modules

    Class 33 Introduction
    - Bronze 500, Silver 700, Gold 750
    Loco: Class 33 GRN
    Maximum achievable points: 250 = No medal at all
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    I meant gathering the data, but I do agree that you should be able to complete it.
     
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    I don't specifically look for them, the few services are the ones I found while playing,
    but I know for example that GWB has a lot of such services.
     
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    Oh right that makes more sense.
     
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    I have not been able to reach Gold on SEHS - 5J84. Gold requires 7200, I was able to only get 7190 - I didn't speed once and arrived at St. Pancras 5 seconds late (even though there is no published arrival time...).
     
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    Again, I have not been able to achieve higher than silver on any of the scheduled services for the class 66 on the new SEHS.
     
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    Added it in the first post, I was 2 minutes early and also got 7190 points.
     
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    Class 33 instruction on WSR, only able to get 250,
     
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    Thanks for adding the RHTT Services :)
     
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    A fudge for this is to reverse in the platform at ashford before you start and make sure you get 30 points before you head off the end of the platform towards STP. Not realistic I know but is a solution.

    Pretty much all the 66 services and the vast majority of empty coaching stock moves on SEHS are ungoldable (made up word!) except the Hoo Yard shunting ones. The problem is the game thinks you can get 1000 points at each objective when in reality it’s either 500 or 750. And it’s annoying when you arrive a few mins early and get 6xx points and it turns out there is a time of arrival for you to aim at but it only displays when you arrive (normally says wait until xx:xx at the top). That’s what I’ve found playing SEHS anyway. Doesn’t affect the old routes as far as I’m aware.
     
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    hello... I have a problem getting gold in these scenarios

    DLC main spessart bahn
    scenario DB83126 Laufach-Heigenbrucken
    maximum points 1010 gold requirement 1200 points

    Dlc BR 204 locomotive

    DB BR 204 Hafenbanhof Order
    maximum points 3298
    gold requirement 3850 points

    DB BR 204 Hafenbanhof dock delivery
    maximum points 4804
    gold requirement 4900 points


    I tried to play several times, I always reached the maximum number of points, but I can't reach the gold...
    I apologize if I played badly...
     
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    the empty stock runs from slide green to ramsgate in the evening cant be golded
     
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    This is exactly what I want to prevent in TSW 3, otherwise the problem will NEVER be fixed. DTG could edit little by little with future patches and that's it. After all, they have shown with the Santa Fe F7 and the BNSF locos that it can go fast if they want.
    Also, the game should not consist of workarounds constantly and forever and should work properly at some point.
     
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    I was able to complete Y102 - Morning Bowl Switching with 9280 points, it's a little close but possible. Since the service only gives points that end with zero, but you are 15 points short, I assume that you were a bit too fast at some point. I have added the other services.
     
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    hi .ok i will try to play again...thanks
     
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    Hello everyone

    Contacting technical support will not give a lot of results, I have already repeatedly written to them about this while playing TSW 2. We still haven't solved the problem with the medals on the Bakerloo line, when I spent a lot of time going through all the scenarios. Then one day all my labors disappeared. I even created a branch here for this : https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/my-gold-medals-turned-into-bronze-and-silver.51904/

    The problem was never solved, so I decided to fix the situation myself by changing the points for the scripts manually. This is much faster than going through the scripts again. If anyone is interested, I can write how to fix the number of points for any scenario in the profile file of your game, without affecting the files and configuration of the game itself.

    I am waiting for an answer from you whether you need this information or not .
     
  18. Fear-Factor

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    This is annoying.
    I thought i have done something wrong but after 4 retries i have also an issue with RSN and the scenario "Aufgewacht", guess in english its "wake up".
    I have done everything according to the rules and guess with 4m 35s it was fast.
    No overspeed penalty and so on.
    My max score is there 749ap but for gold i need 750ap.... but cant achieve that.
     
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    I have found that all of the run around services at Bishops Lydeard are buggy, you can only score enough AP for a Bronze medal, I hope DTG fix all of these bugged scenarios and services, especially the WSR Bishops Lydeard run arounds
     
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    Are you talking about the scenario tasks or timetable?
    I have all scenarios in gold with exception of MD5 Minehead to Bishops Lydeard which is in silver.
    But i know that was my fault coz i was too fast in one place.
     
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    In the timetable
     
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    This topic is very useful for DTG! DTG JD can you pass this to the team all what's written in the first post?
     
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    Already added it. Thanks for the additional information, this is really helpful.
     
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    I also want to jump into the thread and thank sequencer2k16 for doing an extensive research into this issue as well as very clearly documenting all of the affected routes and point amounts, this is invaluable information that will allow us to address this issue much quicker.
     
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    Many thanks to DTG JD and DTG Alex for your replies, I'm glad you like the list and that it will help you. :love:
    Please let me know as soon as you change something in the scores so that I can keep the list up to date and we don't get confused.
     
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    Not sure if this next scenario where gold cant be reached?

    Main-Spessart Bahn
    DB83126
    Pulled this consist uphill as fast as possible without running into overspeed or wheelslip.
    Tried this scenario 5 times and everytime i can reach only 1010AP.
    My fastest time was 9:34 (allowed scenario max is over 12 min).
    1200AP are necessary for gold.
    no gold.JPG

    Can someone confirm that?
     
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    DB 83126 is already listed above, 1010 points is right, you can't get more.
     
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    Ok, have overseen that. Sorry.
     
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    I have something else for you, in the scenario "Aufgewacht" (Rise and Shine) you have to stop very precisely and the 750 points are yours.

    20221025222319_1.jpg
     
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    the problem is also in scenarios DB 83158 Laufach-Heigenbrucken.. same as in scenarios DB 83126... for gold you need 1200 points... to reach only 1010 points... also scenarios DB 83114, DB 83146, ....same problem...all freight routes Laufach-Heigenbrucken...
    DLC Main Spessart Bahn
     
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    yea, this is frustrating to my OCD brain. I have all Gold medals in the route journeys for Cajun Pass except for the training modules. Despite scoring 1620 points in both, I am stuck at a silver medal because I completed them the day the game was released. Now I will be stuck at Silver. This causes two of the chapters to have a green check mark instead of a gold star and also just gives a green check mark for the whole Journey on Cajun Pass. Its not anything that prevents the game from working, but it is just annoying and I feel like it would be an easy fix to push out in an update.
     
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    I feel the same way, but DTG has shown with the Santa Fe F7 that points can be adjusted very quickly, they just have to want to.
     
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    As an update, we've built an internal list from all of your help and slowly working our way through addressing all these issues - there are a few fixes coming in the next patch to routes on Bakerloo, Cane Creek and S-Bahn Shutdown on MunichAugsburg and we will keep pushing to fix more.
     
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    DLC Ruhr-Sieg Nord
    Freight Exchange - number of points needed for gold 5350, maximum number of points achieved 5110=silver
    DB 80103 Hagen -Boele number of points needed for gold 3650, maximum number of points achieved 3470=silver
     
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    Thank you, I have updated the list.
     
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    DLC MAIN Spessart Bahn
    DB 83114 Laufach-Heigenbrucken number of points needed for gold 1200, maximum number of points achieved 1010=bronze

    DB 83146 Laufach-Heigenbrucken number of points needed for gold 1200, maximum number of points achieved 1010=bronze
     
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    DLC Ruhr-Sieg Nord
    Journey chapter: Passenger driver
    RB 56 Iserlohn-Hagen number of points needed for gold 3300, maximum number of points achieved 3280=silver

    These are all three scenarios RB56 Iserlohn - Hagen where you need to get 3300 points for gold...in all three scenarios you can get a maximum of 3280 points = silver

    please add to the list
    Thank you
     
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    That sounds funny to me for some reason.
     
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    DLC Birmingham Cross City
    you can add BCC HST runs 0E23, 5E23 & 0V84 to services with unobtainable golds! Can't even get silver on these 3 runs as the best score possible is 1550 and you need 1650 for silver and 1900 for gold
     
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    Add the 323 introduction from BCC to the list. Need 1800pts for gold and best I can manage is around 1600pts. I attempted it twice, did it perfectly each time
     
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    Already added but thanks ;)
     
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    Sorry about that....I should have read the OP
     
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    DLC Ruhr-Sieg Nord
    Returning Empty - number of points needed for gold 3550, maximum number of points achieved 3510=silver
     
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    You can also add these services from Kassel Wurzburg to the list where gold seems to be unachievable. Found in journey mode Red-eye freight.
    Service 69161 part 1 - maximum points achieved 5,480 = silver; points needed for gold 5,650.
    Service 69161 part 2 - maximum points achieved 2,330 = bronze; points needed for gold 2,850
     
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    LIRR - Long Island Rail Road: New York - Hicksville
    Scenario: Hicksville Handler - Bronze 3750, Silver 8750, Gold 9750
    Journey chapter: M3 Engineer - Loco: M3 LIRR
    Maximum achievable points: about 9488 = Silver

    I won a gold medal on this route. i reached 10260 points without problems....
     
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    I will screenshot every service which have impossible gold medals.
    And here I have some examples from GWE and BKL. And as a special guest. The coal loading service at SPG.
    20220928165708_1.jpg 20220928165727_1.jpg 20220928165738_1.jpg 20221101154544_1.jpg 20221127153807_1.jpg
     
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    Timetable: Bakerloo Line 2021

    Service: 231-1 London Road - Lambeth North Shunt
    Starting at: 05:18
    Bronze: 500
    Silver: 1100
    Gold: 1200
    Maximum achievable points in a regular run: 560

    Service: 201D-1 Stonebridge Park Depot - Stonebridge Park
    Starting at: 05:02
    Bronze: 750
    Silver: 1350
    Gold: 1450
    Maximum achievable points in a regular run: 1030

    Service: 232-1 London Road - Lambeth North Shunt
    Starting at:
    Bronze: 750
    Silver: 1350
    Gold: 1450
    Maximum achievable points in a regular run: 1060

    Service: 221D-1 Queen's Park - Stonebridge Depot
    Starting at: 05:28
    Bronze: 1000
    Silver: 2050
    Gold: 2250
    Maximum achievable points in a regular run: 1910

    Service: 743-3 Aldwych to Elephant & Castle South Sidings
    Starting at: 01:58
    Bronze: 500
    Silver: 1200
    Gold: 1350
    I scored: 980

    Service: Elephant & Castle South Sidings to Aldwych
    Starting at: 03:56
    Bronze: 500
    Silver: 1200
    Gold: 1350
    I scored: 935 (maybe due to speeding)

    If you want a screenshot, let me know.
     
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    Service 233-1 shares the same medal score requirements as 232-1.
     
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    I think they fixed LZN - Zentralschweiz: Luzern - Sursee. I managed to get Gold in Scenario: "There And Back Again" with 12633 and Scenario: "Slippery Season" with 8985 Points.
     
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    Service 234-1 shares the same medal score requirements as 232-1 and 233-1.
     
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