Train Sim World 3 Edinburgh - Glasgow Preview Stream Questions For Q&a

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  1. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of the route can you deploy the ramp which is actually used by wheelchair and stroller passengers if rendered in game alongside the lifts
     
  2. kiyoko91

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    Will b a local service between those stops?
     
  3. Scotrail156467

    Scotrail156467 Well-Known Member

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    No this wouldn't be realistic the last 150 seen in Edinburgh was back in March 2005 during the days when scotrail was run by national express
     
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  4. trainsimplayer

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    Wrong line for that
     
  5. Kangaroo Conductor

    Kangaroo Conductor Well-Known Member

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    A general question about DTG and Third Party work.

    Can Third Party and DTG use content of each other to create routes, wagons and locos, or is it limited to the original creator ? For example, can DTG or Skyhook make a route in the future with Rivets Class 385 as a base, or will we have to wait on Rivet for that ?
     
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  6. nwp1

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    Questions for JD

    1. There is a 10% discount on Steam for pre-orders, why is there no such deal for console users? Also Steam and PS users get far more sales than xbox! Is that really fair?

    2. What are the xbox achievements for the ScotsRail Express route?

    3. Will Xbox users be able to purchase it at 10am this Thursday?
     
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  7. PAFC47760

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    Does this mean you aren't fixing the 150 then
     
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  8. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    Will PlayStation users get a discount upon release as compensation for yet another delay?
     
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  9. theorganist

    theorganist Well-Known Member

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    Is a few days really going to hurt you that much?
     
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  10. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    It's a delay that affects us while other users get it on day of release. If it affected everyone that would be fine but it's not the first time PlayStation users have been hit with a delay or stuff missing while Xbox users and PC users get priority. So you'll forgive me if I'm not jumping for joy and a bit miffed.
     
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  11. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Regarding the sales on consoles vs steam, it comes down to microsoft and sony themselves, not dtg. It's already been explained several times already.

    And xbox users should have the dlc available at usual time it is released. There's no delay on it since the issue that caused to delay for ps users is exclusive to PlayStation users.
     
  12. Kangaroo Conductor

    Kangaroo Conductor Well-Known Member

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    Just to be clear; taking it away from everyone or releasing it early but buggy for PS5 would be the better choice ?

    I understand the anger, but, taking everyone out of it and also missing out on sales is not a good practice. Nobody should practice the 'If I feel bad they should too' argument.
     
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  13. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    Will the LD HST release with this route, and will the catenary around the edinburgh area be fixed as the OHLE into edinburgh on the west portal needs to be fixed
     
  14. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    No I'm saying that it's not the first time PlayStation users get the delay. It feels like testing on the PlayStation isn't as extensive as it is on PC and Xbox so things get missed and hence we get stiffed with a delay. But we'll probably just get a "Lessons will be learned" soundbite on the livestream that we've heard so many times before.
     
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  15. pessitheghost

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    Will the 385 be available on LD from release
     
  16. Irish Train sim

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    Don’t forget XBOX have had issues in the past also, major issues with sound. Also, XBOX don’t get as many sales as playstation. What compensation would you want for a game that hasn’t even released yet? Get a grip.
     
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  17. Kangaroo Conductor

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    As a PC player with previously split forums, I didn't notice any release delay before, so, I wasn't aware of that. But, regardless, that is no justification for a compensation. Believe me when I say that they want it out at the same time for everyone.
     
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  18. sophieclarke1983

    sophieclarke1983 Well-Known Member

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    My question is the Regarding the tms is this setup to interface with scenario planner for example before even touching new route I always take a new train and thrash test it on east coastway from Eastbourne to Brighton only stopping at Lewes so is this something the tms is capable of in scenario planner also can we set the destination display on train or is this automatic?
     
  19. sophieclarke1983

    sophieclarke1983 Well-Known Member

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    The 385 panels are already included they work same way as on tsw2 island line 2022 class 484 panels do
     
  20. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community Staff Member

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    I can answer these now...!

    1 - we have to negotiate with the platform providers when we do pre-orders; some are more receptive than others, and some need longer lead time than others. We strive for parity across platforms where we can, but sometimes it's not possible. The same goes for sales. We try to take part in all the sales we can, but we can only input into the ones we are invited to.

    2 - the Achievements will follow a similar pattern to previous TSW3 releases - so likely 3 achievements

    3 - that's the plan! As with every release, we don't like to provide exact times in case something doesn't quite trigger correctly, but that's certainly where we're aiming.
     
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  21. heliomass

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    Of course, you want to know exactly how you can immerse yourself into the busy timetable of Rivet Games’ Train Sim World 3: ScotRail Express: Edinburgh – Glasgow! The route will feature the following services for you to get stuck into and Master the Mainline in your own way.
    • BR Class 385 = 221x Player / 143x AI
    • BR Class 314 = 2x Player / 2x AI (Cathcart Circle)
    • BR Class 66 = 1x Player / 2x AI (Railhead Treatment Train)
    • City Tram = 0x Player / 78x AI
    Will all these services be available on last generation consoles (eg: Xbox One X)?

    Edit: Actually, now I think about it I'm curious to know how the Class 314 will fit into the route!
     
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  22. nwp1

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    Cheers JD, thank you for your response. On the question of achievements, it would be useful to know what they will be, as so far the new routes of TSW3, their achievements are not listed in the xbox achievement list.
     
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  23. sophieclarke1983

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    Good point I was wondering if the 314,s some sort of dead run or depot services
     
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  24. sophieclarke1983

    sophieclarke1983 Well-Known Member

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    This would be all dependent on licence agreements and co operation between Dtg and the content creators
     
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  25. sophieclarke1983

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    Did rivet/DTG need a licence to use the double headed rail symbol on the queen street station building ? This is a nice touch on the glass panelling very impressive
     
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  26. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community Staff Member

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    Gen8 and Gen9 will both have the entire timetable listed above.
     
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  27. trainsimplayer

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    It's like, 5 days. It's not the end of the world and certainly not worth a discount for the exact same product.
     
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  28. trainsimplayer

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    When are new trains not?
     
  29. marcsharp2

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    It's five days after general release for everyone else. No its not the end of the world but it is not the first time us PS users have been dumped with a delay. So a discount is perfectly reasonable to ask for.
     
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  30. man_utduk2002

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    I'm wandering now there's announcements on trains I was wandering if station announcements is a now a more possibility?
     
  31. Mr JMB

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    There is a big fail in today's announcement. The result is that PS owners feel done over yet again. What should have happened is that release was delayed for everyone because of a bug, no need to say it only affects PS. The response would have been positive as it rarely happens that they push a release back for a fix. Plus PS owners wouldn't feel like the poorest relations yet again.
     
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  32. rennekton#1349

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    Station announcements are probably more complicated than in train announcements cuz then it would have to know if there's a train on the platform or what service is going by, etc to play the appropriate announcements. Don't know how much work that would be
     
  33. nwp1

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    Was very impressed with what I saw on the stream tonight. l love the walkabout to the lifts, elevators and station rooms which look very realistic and enjoyable and I congratulate Rivet on this feature. The illumination of the Castle is classy.

    Following this release I truly hope that Rivet will now improve and enhance WCL to the same quality so as to withdraw their worst route scenery tag.
     
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  34. trainsimplayer

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    So you want the same product for less, just for a fix...
     
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  35. nwp1

    nwp1 Well-Known Member

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    It would be nice if everyone on the day of release received it for 10% off like PC users. Is there a problem with pre-orders on consoles that a pre order is impossible? If so reduce the price on the day of release. Only PC and xbox game pass users receive 10%. I only play TSW on xbox so a game-pass is no use to me, as I don’t want to spend time playing something I have no interest in!!!
     
  36. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community Staff Member

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    Here's the (timestamped) preview now:

     
  37. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    So I assume that you'll be paying full price for it despite there potentially being a 10% discount. After all you wouldn't want to be hypocrite would ya. Practice what you preach
     
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  38. trainsimplayer

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    Well I don't have a choice because I own Game Pass for Xbox, therefore taking 10% off. I would be happy to pay full price.
     
  39. sophieclarke1983

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    I paid full price but I don’t regret it one bit if you look beyond bugs it’s heck of a solid fast train that will only get better and Kudos to Jasper rivet’s community manager for being on it so quick
     
  40. nwp1

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    How many lifts can you access. I found the one at Waverley but Linlithgow doesn’t work. Anyone found another? Shame there is only one if that’s all there is!!!
     
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    I think I saw that there was only one. I might be wrong on that though.
     
  42. nwp1

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    Thank you MM.

    So many updates for xbox, three so far today. Is that a record for a route release? Well done Rivet!!! Each update is eating into my low disk space too.

    PS users, you think you have been out done. Should have all the bugs fixed by Tuesday!!!
     
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  43. steve08

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    1. Will there be 158s or hsts
    2. Where can I find what stations are on this route I thought it was Edinburgh to Glasgow central but it’s actually Glasgow Queen Street

    ps users got to wait til 31/1 to play now.
     
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    For #2, use the link below and there's a picture of a timetable with the station names. And the route destinations have explained in numerous teasers and articles you know lol.

    https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/rivets’-new-scottish-route.62734/
     
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    What announcements are there? On board or station ?
     
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    In train pis announcements tied to the tms. You have to do it manually. There's an auto option but it doesn't say the next station is... It won't work on other routes since it's specific to this route
     
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    How do I turn on passenger lights
     
  48. rennekton#1349

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    You use the tms. After you turn it on and clock continue, there is an up arrow on the bottom left i believe (don't know exact icon but same location) and from there you can turn on saloon lights
     
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    Yes.
     
  50. steve08

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    Linlithgow has a sign saying this is Glasgow Queen Street
     

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