Train looks amazing! Only questionable thing with the model/textures is the wiper imprint on the windscreen for me. Even if it‘s like that in real life (which I really don’t believe, it looks very artificial), I think it would be acceptable to remove it from the virtual version for better visibility. It is very prominent from the cab view, as seen in the gameplay preview.
Query for Maik Goltz: have you/are you making period PIS displays? The modern blue ones would of course be all wrong.
I’m starting to feel like we could see a release in the coming weeks. At the very least, it seems like Niddertalbahn will be the next route we get. The DTG Linke Rheinstrecke and Steam routes still had significant parts of unfinished scenery and textures when we saw them a few weeks ago, and Skyhook weren’t even ready to show off more than a teaser screenshot of their route. Additionally, getting the Niddertalbahn finished in late February to early March seemed to be the plan at least a few weeks ago when Maik stated he wanted to resume work on the DB BR 420 loco DLC in March. We might get the Rivet Games West Cornwall steam DLC before that, but predicting the launch date of that pack is very difficult because we don’t know if they’ve restarted work on it yet or are still committed to fixing Edinburgh-Glasgow. Nonetheless, it’s worth keeping on eye on that Friday livestream next week. They don’t usually do stream on that day, so I’m thinking this might be a DLC preview and will be revealed after the announcement is made early next week.
The Niddertalbahn may initially only have one BR628 railcar unit, but there is still a lot of potential for the future. Apart from the BR218, railtours with steam locomotives can also be placed here. Unfortunately, we will not see any freight traffic, as it is not a classic freight train route and there are no industrial sidings. But you can enjoy the landscape at a leisurely pace and commute from station to station. Glauburg Stockheim station used to have a roundhouse with a turntable, it may have been there in 1993, as it has now been shut down and dismantled. So in the past there was a lot more going on here. A particular highlight could also be the line crossings and the transfer stations in Bad Vilbel and in Nidderau. So it will definitely be exciting on the Niddertalbahn!
628. And regarding the railtours with steam locos, I don't think the current uk steam locomotives would be appropriate in Germany.
...of course I didn't mean UK steamers! There are a lot of German steam locos waiting to be implemented in 3D. Unfortunately there are too few developers and those who are there are packed from top to bottom and are working at full capacity. I had a poster from the Training Center in mind. This locomotive would also go very well with the Tharandter Rampe.
We got the trophies for the Niddertalbahn on Playstation, which means the release date will be in the next couple of weeks.
I assume that there will be another bundle for this and the Mainz Koblenz route. Tropys are now available for both and the 628 has layers for Mainz Koblenz. So that's a good opportunity for another bundle.
where are the trophies for Mainz Koblenz? And where did you get the information that the 628 will get layers?
The layers were confirmed by a developer on the TSC Discord, he also stated AI from Mainz-Koblenz would appear on Niddertalbahn.
The 103 is one off the most iconic locos that has build in western europe so i hope this will come soon!
Absolutely correct because the last station Bad Vilbel is shared with that route and the electrified Main Weser Bahn
Damn, that's quick. I expected a longer wait for this route. But happy to hear it is getting closer to release. Hope it will be good.
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/linke-rheinstrecke-mainz-koblenz.64768/page-7 use the link and scroll up a bit
DTG is very careful with unfinished content so for me it was clear that this project is nearly finished. DTG didn't share content that's in very early stages to prevent expectations for a close release. it was for me more a surprise what they did on the festival of rail with 3rd party content to give a sneak peak.
For me, the biggest surprise was the Peak Forest screenshot with it's untextured viaduct. DTG previously showed train models without textures (usually they were pink), but I don't think they're ever shown objects without textures in teasers. In development articles about signaling, sure, but not in reveals. I hope we get more of that in the future, it's interesting to see the creation process and how the routes get made. Anyway, back to Niddertalbahn
definitely! But also I might be the only German who thinks that the Br101 is cooler than the Br103 XD
I can understand you're choice but the body of the 103 is way more better than the 101.... The inner part of the 101 is a step better for sure.
I feel like each German express loco has their very own charm. The 103 is just pure elegance, and an insane amount of power with conventional technology pushed to it's limit. The BR 120 (my personal favourite) is an unsung hero and the grandfather of all modern locomotives. The BR 101 did what it was supossed to do (be it with some initial software issues, but that's not unique), running well over a thousand kilometers in a day for nearly 30 years straight, and extending the life of loco hauled services into the 21st century. You can even lump the BR 110 which was a huge step forward and stood well above the other 'einheitsloks' in speed and in the case of the streamlined ones, even in looks. Each of those locos has a very interesting developement history, and all of them have impressive performance for their respective times. Look-wise elegance surely dropped after the BR 103, but the BR 120s and 101s utilitarian and effecient designs have the charm of understatement going for them.
you right! But personally I really think that the Br103 is not that beautiful; it does look like a bean on wheels to me
Blasphemy! There's only one German loco cooler than the 103, and thats the V200! By the way, I think it officially counts as a crime against humanity that we still don't have an accurate V200 for either Train Simulator Classic or TSW.... yes, I know there's one in the European Loco Pack for TSC, but that's a simplified model without working PZB or SIFA. Anyone? Maik? We need some serious vintage twin engine diesel power!
What horrendous blasphemy I have to torture my eyes with here! Unspeakable! In all seriousness, I agree with jolojonasgames that all of them have their own charme. Love the curves of the E 18/E 10/ E 03, appreciate the heritage of the Br 120 and its utalitarian design, the 101 is a pure workhorse to me - nothing special about it but it gets the job done. Oh, heck yeah, sign me up! What a beauty she is…
Worth noting the Niddertalbahn apparently won’t make its scheduled release date because the scenery is still being worked on, among other things. Source: TSC Discord
It's a classic electric locomotive and was designed to do 180 kmh operation making it suited for IC and D-Zug services before the DB BR103 1960s. Which makes it suited as a Linke Rheinstrecke Museum train
Given the symbolic on the front that seems to be a part of it, and the history about the incident in the museum, better not have that one in the game.
E03 (BR103) and V200 are icons and pretty much the most beautiful and elegant (along with the VT11.5) of the German railway industry. Everything after that was functional, more or less quite presentable (BR120 for example), but that's about it. We don't even want to talk about today's modern locomotive, it has nothing to do with elegance. A BR101 is a pure workhorse, it may still look sleek, but it's not really pretty either. Nevertheless, I prefer any 101 with a wagon train to an ICE. My opinion. ^^
Well, the E 19s worked well into the Bundesbahn era - obviously without then outdated insignias on the front. See here, for example: Source It’s not necessarily their history, why I wouldn’t include them. In that case, we could never get Br 52s or E 94s, both workhorses well into the Bundesbahn era. Rather, I wouldn’t release them in TSW because they were always 2+2 (4 engines - 2 built for 2 designs each) oddballs that never quite fit in anywhere. E 18s or E 10s are way more representative of high class trains before the 103. The E 19s were always outsiders (at least after 1945). Going by your terms, I’d say the E 18 is classic while the E 19 is an interesting off-shoot mostly forgotten at this point.
Absolutely. I’ve looked into them quite a bit because of my love for old electric locos. They were truly pushing the envelope back then and it’s impressive what these locos could do with the technology of the time. I certainly wouldn’t mind having them in TSW, but they were essentially just 4 prototypes for a series production that never came. Personally speaking, I’d rather have the E 18 instead.
Thanks and I do see the E18 & E19 as Museum trains on LFR while VT98 & VT95 run Niddertalbahn. I do remember an E18 Set in DR East Germany produced by Marklin that can be its alt paint scheme. So is the one in the Picture in TSC E18 ran RSN
The E19s had been retired by the late 1970s. The E 18s, however, soldiered on into 1987 - but still too early for either of these 90s routes.
The symbol on the front can be counted as controversial, but what 'incident in the museum' are we talking about here ?
"However, the museum management had the locomotive removed from the museum because in 2011 a Greek police officer had his picture taken in front of it giving a Nazi salute. Since then, the E 19 has been parked inaccessible to the public in a depot at the Nuremberg marshalling yard"
I don't quite understand what the problem is with this particular 'controversial' symbol. It's historically accurate. Using it doesn't necessarily mean you're making a political statement. Also, we shouldn't forget nasty stuff happened in history. Trying to hide it wouldn't be a good thing, IMO. Personally I would be in favor or depicting the more darker pages in history, to make us all aware bad stuff happened. But my opinion seems to be that of a minority, and I guess I shouldn't expect a commercial company to develop something that might upset a notable portion of their customer base.
This is the crux of it. Though, it does amuse me to imagine DTG's marketing team being tonedeaf enough to place the E 19 onto a splashscreen—flares, bloom, Dutch angle and all—with bespoke symbol at the forefront of the locomotive. Cheers
I would be surprised if the Germans hadn´t his regulated and carved in stone. It seems quite thin ice. Unless DTG can fit a "Train Simulator Game" into the definition and interpretation of § 86 (4) https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__86.html http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__86a.html
I don't think DTG will release the E19 (the planned routes don't really fit the loco in time and many people are probably less familiar with the 1938 machine = little potential). Therefore, the discussion about forbidden symbols is actually superfluous. Personally, I would rather see one of the well-known standard locomotives (e.g. a 141) or a 111, 120 or 151 in the TSW that I can do something with than an old "war machine". But while we're at it: Last summer (2022) E19 12 was presented to the public. Except for the so-called "H-cross", the symbol of this time was recognizable. But that's something I don't really want or need to see in TSW, although the loco is certainly steeped in history. There is so much other potential there, including from modern times.
Don't want to get into politics here but I feel bad for every German train enthusiast. If the authorities have a problem with the symbol, just remove it and ( maybe ) keep it in a display case somewhere else. Some random person from a foreign country raising an arm to 45 degrees upwards, and they've sent the loco. to an exile. ( That's fascism, I believe )
The E18 would be a nice "Old timer" to have and with some minor modifications, and a new livery, it could be a handy OBB loco too.
