Is There A Reason To Why Dtg Hasn't Made A Reto German Democratic Republic Route

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  1. brickmaster#7638

    brickmaster#7638 Well-Known Member

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    But it would definitely be a different experience compared to the German routes we have right now, it also would allow for older rolling stock to come to the game
     
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  2. driverwoods#1787

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    Get it now but for the GDR routes if they were to arrive in game there will be a variety of unique trains including a DR BR211/242 Holzrolller which plays differently than the modern electric locomotives we have in the game. Except 155 143 & 112 which were made in the GDR
     
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    The work involved in creating the whole new assets required etc would probably not be far off a brand new territory for TSW3. Possibly more work then the likes of an Austrian route.

    And you have to ask yourself which would generate more revenue?
     
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    Oh, thanks for mentioning here. I first learned about the route from this post (I rarely look at 3rd party stores unless they are mentioned in the "Latest Sale" thread). From the screenshots, it looks quite interesting. I've bookmarked all the 2 3rd party sites I could find on Internet which are currently selling it and added a showcasing video for watching in free time. I'll probably get it after all the necessary expenditures at the end of the month. Thanks again!
     
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  5. bence950906

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    I would like to see a German steam locomotive on the Tharandter Rampe DLC and a new TSW3 light system.
     
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    You are correct on that however if you have an East German route combined with an Austrian route DR Baureihe 211 242 Holzrolller 119 Karpatenschrek train drivers have a term for it U-Boot DR BR118 Dicke Babelsbergerin can run on Austrian ÖBB Infra thanks to PZB. However you will not keep up with the time schedules because East German trains only max out at 75 mph 120 kmh. In game you can see this happen on RRO SKA HMA Main Spessart Bahn Hanau Aschaffenburg Laufach Heigenbrücken Lohr Gemünden am Main where you will not keep up to the timetable using DR Baureihe 243 because those routes have a 130 km/h section 160 kmh on some spots.
     
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    ...can't wait for the sequels: "The Dovetail Empire strikes back!" and "The Return of the Simrails" ;)

    I think towards (G)DR content everything has been clarified for now. Short summary:
    • no former DR route before 1990
    • BR232 "Ludmilla" is coming (even or maybe in original DR livery)
    • the BR52 (DB version) hopefully too (we need more steam variety, not only from the UK)
    • would be nice to have an updated and paintable BR204 (homework for Rivet)
    • some historical former DR rolling stock much appreciated, maybe Reko-, UIC y-wagons or older Dostos
     
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    :D:D:D
     
  10. brickmaster#7638

    brickmaster#7638 Well-Known Member

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    I thought the Ludmilla COULD come in DR paint scheme, and not is going to

    Maybe Maik said something about it earlier in this thread

    Amd the br 52 only was an assumption due to the posters on Dresden-Chemnitz, the training center and Niddertalbahn.

    Although I’d love to see both happen, so please proof me wrong! :)
     
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    Ah, found his message.

    So it really is more on the „likely yes“ side, very nice!
     
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    The Rübelandbahn sold badly? I'm sorry. I like them so much that I bought them twice. Friends on Steam had asked me several times where I got the route from. unfortunately they were not willing to create an additional account to be able to buy the route. if the route was available via Steam itself, it would certainly have looked different. I would also like to thank you for the good work on the Rübelandbahn :) You even thought of the Blue Lake, very good work. the praise can also be passed on to the entire team.
     
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    Don't forget the prequels, including but not limited to:
    The Sam-tom Menace
    Revenge of the Fish
     
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    I'll throw in the 750mm gauge Lößnitzgrundbahn (Radebeul Ost - Radeburg) and Weißeritztalbahn (Freital-Hainsberg - Kippsdorf) considering that small parts of the line and some suitable rolling stock are already available ingame and that the rolling stock would make a nice layer on the Dresden-Riesa and Dresden-Chemnitz.

    Both lines would be relatively interesting in the late DR days with freight operations including standard gauge vehicles on transporter wagons and have the joint honour (the Weißeritztalbahn was the final one to be privatised but as it was destroyed during the flood of 2002, the Lößnitzgrundbahn was the final one to operate) of marking the end of regular german state railway steam in 2004.
     
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    ...also good ones! Somehow a pink Darth Vader is buzzing around in my head all the time. :D
     
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    I agree and why not make them SHP capable making them perfectly suited for German Democratic Republic People's Republic of Poland in your time it would have been written as this Deutschen Demokratischen Republik Volksrepublik Polen Cross border operation. These mean the following Hauptstrecke Frankfurt am Oder Posen
    Hauptstrecke Görlitz Görlitz Moys Breslau and Berlin Küstrin Bromberg. That way DTG can go into simrail territory set in the communist era. The reason why I have German names for Polish cities is how hard for them to be said as a non Polish speaker. When it comes to Hauptstrecke Frankfurt am Oder Reppen Posen DR Baureihe 130-132 142 119 118 stops at Bahnhof Reppen for Polish Railways EU06 EU07 class 83 derivatives Eastbound Westbound end of Polish Class 83 versions for East German DR Baureihe 130-132 142 119 118 to Berlin.
     
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    Don’t you mean a pink Darth vader with cat ears? :D
     
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    upload_2023-5-17_16-16-8.png

    Pink Vader? But where are the catphones?
    Hmmm ...
    Meditate about this, I must ...
     
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    How did we get from „a route set in the GDR „ to pink Darth vader?
     
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    I just thought a little bit about how we would come nearest to GDR content:

    The best way would be a route set in GDR times, but that would be VERY unlikely to happen.
    A diesel legends style add ons would be the nearest to that, but that would only be somewhat ok.
    One thing that would be somewhat easy to do, and also wouldn’t mean wrong rolling stock at the wrong time would be an „Museum railway“ add on, which would allow access to the museums on Dresden-Chemnitz, and also stuff for not only one route.

    But pretty much the easiest thing, which even is necessary, is the fixing of the Br 204 with Livery designer functionality being added, which would allow for some DR liveries to me made, and could make Niddertalbahn with some scenario creating skills to the nearest we have to an route set in the GDR
     
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    You are spot on and when it comes to Niddertalbahn the nearest route to it that runs into the former GDR is Bebra Gerstungen Eisenach Erfurt. At least we can get that route in the future to include the following trains from Reichsbahndirektion Erfurt DR BR110-112 V100 Ost 130-132 142 Ludmilla. When it comes to the 204 in that time has to use VEB Kühlautomat Johannisthal engine not the Caterpillar diesel engine.
     
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    DB Baureihe 445/446 fits Main Spessart Bahn destination sign says Frankfurt (M) Hbf Aschaffenburg bound
     
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    But to be more accurate, they’d need to redo the bit around Heigenbrücken.
     
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    The way I see it is something like this Deutsche Reichsbahn Zacns Habbiins Shimms U708 and Shimms TTU on Transporter Wagons. The owner for Zacns is the Volksegeiner Betrieb VEB Minol and the state-run gas station state run oil refinery VEB PCK Schwedt. The latter has connection to the Russian oil pipeline system the Druzhba pipeline
     
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    I second that suggestion. This route cuts through one of the most beautiful regions in former East Germany. And with some interesting grades IIRC. Imagine TSG getting their hands on it in NID fashion ...

    May The Force be with your suggestion!
     
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    For steam locomotives we can also have Deutsche Bundesbahn Bahndirektion Frankfurt steam locomotives whuch at this point are retired and needs to be repaired at Meiningen if set after the German reunification 1991. Another thing that needs to be considered is to have a mixture of both west and East German steam locomotives running on the route.
     
  28. torfmeister

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    You can see it in TSC. I highly doubt DTG's interested in doing it for TSW. The TSC version was done by enthusiastic freeware developers with more time on their hands, meticulously recreating every asset and releasing it when it's done. It took years, so it's not something a company, that must publish content constantly to survive, could afford. This should answer the original question.

    A simulator that does not come with an editor (and most others supply one) will always stay very limited in content, thus attracting less players and needing to raise the price and lower the production cost for DLC to stay profitable. Which in turn leads to... Glossop. :) Unasked for. Only a fraction of what could have been one of the most iconic british routes for TSW.

    Sorry for shattering your dreams. I see a french route coming.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for telling me about that speaking of the GDR route you mentioned it's the TSC Rübelandbahn
     
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    In terms of East Germany, would still like to see part of the Harz network albeit this would probably be best done post reunification. Imagine storming up to Brocken in TSW with one of those brutal looking steam tank engines.
     
  31. torfmeister

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    Rübelandbahn (Maik Goltz) is great, but I was mostly referring to the bigger Tharandter Rampe (Karl-Marx-Stadt - Tharandt) aka Projekt Freiberg (Sachs) set in the final days of the GDR.

    https://rail-sim.de/forum/filebase/entry/1836-projekt-freiberg-sachs-v2-01/
     
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