Summer Big Three Sweepstake

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  1. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Well, building the whole underground part of the Hbf would have been a LOT of work
     
  2. gogglesguy

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    A HRR Remastered and extended would do well i think. Like with proper night time illumination of stations.
     
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  3. traindori

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    However, but its an ICE2 on your picture. ;)

    In principle, I am also in favor of extending the HRR to Düsseldorf and Dortmund. This route in particular is very busy and is ideal for IC/ICE journeys (including the airport train station in Düsseldorf). But the current version from Duisburg to Bochum is simply too short.
     
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  4. pessitheghost

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    How feasible would it be to extend Koln - Aachen into Belgium ?
     
  5. AtherianKing

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    114 miles from what I just looked up , probably doable but an extension that size is very unlikely at least at present. Assuming you mean of course Brussels not just the border.
     
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  6. AtherianKing

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    I think to add to the doable side, I think it can be shown by Kassel Würzburg, that a route just say above 100miles and limited stations, and at least above about 95mph for a very large majority speed limits and no extensive scenic details or multiple track junctions too often and the route will be most likely possible in terms of route details.
     
  7. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    Here's a curveball (take a breath as it won't happen yet) but what if Dtg followed xbox and publically set expectations there's no more new 1st party releases for gen 8 as part of their summer release to focus on gen 8

    Microsoft must have more than 30% on older consoles. There was also a 1335% increase in demand noted in some places following the announcement. Starfield has driven it up too
     
  8. OldVern

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    You could probably find areas of America where there are vast miles of nothingness, anything across the prairies for one. However it’s going to be boring, even more so than SKW. For the UK and most of Lower Europe forget it. Other than the routes in the Scottish Highlands or maybe the Cambrian Coast or Central Wales, there are very few routes that travel through unpopulated areas for any length of time. Even the ones I mentioned are relatively low speed rural services with a handful of trains a day.
     
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  9. marcsharp2

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    I don't know anything about German stuff so I'm gonna guess at another route with a mixture of Freight and Passenger lol.

    UK.... I don't think will be third rail, not yet. I think it'll be somewhere in the south west, along the coast maybe. Exeter to Paignton and Plymouth.

    USA, Will be yet another Freight route in the middle of nowhere.



    And as always there will be a colossal disaster when it launches, maybe all DLCs will be inaccessible again, or the game crashes on launch etc etc.
     
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  10. OldVern

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    Well I doubt they could trump losing the ability to save the game for nearly two months, following the launch of TSW3!
     
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  11. noir

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    Often with german content they first release a loco DLC to existing route and then it comes as a feature in next new route, so we could get something heavily involving Vectron.

    So, how about Dresden - Schöna Grenze? The route is very busy, offers the rest of S1 Meißen-Dresden-Schöna starting at Dresden Hbf (I don't think TSW could manage joining this with DRA), local diesel trains for over-border traffic, heavy freight traffic with layovers and loco changes and distant lines to Czechia stopping at Bad Schandau for crew changes (can be simulated by Vectron and IC wagen even without czech liveries). The route is very overloaded for its capacity, so it offers a good potential for not all-green timetable.

    It's quite a scenic route by itself with Elbtal and Königstein, while even in today's state it preserves a lot of oldschool feeling with old station inventory and Hl signals only being replaced with Ks at the very moment.
     
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  12. cloudyskies21

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    Ah, thanks, have updated the caption. :D Out of interest, how did you know it was that variant?
     
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  13. AtherianKing

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    ICE 1 has headlights below the coupler hatch top line seal thing

    ICE 2 has headlights above that line

    that’s how I always tell them apart anyhows ;)
     
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  14. cloudyskies21

    cloudyskies21 Well-Known Member

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    That's interesting, I never actually noticed until now :D - much appreciated AtherianKing
     
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  15. chieflongshin

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    The south London network from tsc would be an interesting and busy area too
     
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  16. Crosstie

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    Actually, the emptiest areas of the US are in the northernmost states. Central Maine ( where I have lived ) is extremely remote from civilization and Alaska, well, we can't imagine how vast an area that is, and very few people live there.
    But, if there were rail lines in these areas, they would be scenically spectacular, if that's what you like. Boring for some, of course.

    And, funnily enough, the areas you mention, the Cambrian Coast and the Welsh Marches, would be high on my list of wanted routes in TSW3.
     
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  17. MAX1319

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    I do think the 3 routes will include the 700, Acela, and the new German loco on the road map. I don’t see them making the Acela just for two routes and definitely don’t see them making the 700 just for SEHS.
     
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  18. KatiaBLR

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    I hope so so much that the UK route is the ECML.. and i hope even more it would be Peterborough to Doncaster/York and not London King's Cross.. that's the one single route i would love to become a reality in tsw
     
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  19. malikrthr

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    Agreed, for the Acela, from what we know, DTG does not want to bring unbranded stuff to the route, so for now, Baltimore-Washington, or Trenton to Philly is out of the question. The only feasible option I can think of that I think many may want is the New York to New Haven route
     
  20. OldVern

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    Oh definitely, same here - Cambrian or Cambrian Coast would be a Day One purchase for me as would something in Alaska. White Horse and Yukon would also make my day.
     
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  21. MAX1319

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    I agree. Also for the 700 it has to be a route that they have all required licenses and it depends the year is set. Which I would believe to be 2019. This new route would include the 700/1 and the 700/0 would layer in.
     
  22. a.paice

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    I’d be surprised if the new routes feature the 700 or Acela as a main gameplay component. If it was then they would have to supply it with the route which would render selling it as a separate DLC a bit pointless.

    For example with a modern London to Peterborough ECML south, you would have virtually no stopping services if you didn’t own the 700 DLC. They can use the 387 of course but they only cover a few diagrams a day to Peterborough.
    If however it was set around 2017 when they just started to filter in and it could be substituted into a timetable full of 365 units then I could understand that. I just don’t think they will be the main rolling stock on one of the new routes.
     
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  23. MAX1319

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    I think I mentioned this route would introduce the 700/1. The 700/0 would layer in. Anyways is all speculation
     
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    Also the Acela would layer in as the M8 would be introduce on the new US route. Again speculating
     
  25. traindori

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    So the easiest way: The ICE1 has a discontinuous red stripe with DB logo on the front, the ICE2 has a continuous red stripe.

    The 1er also has 2 power cars at each end. The 2er has only one power car and a control cab.

    ICE1
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    ICE2 with control cab
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  26. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    When extensions were mentioned I immediately thought of GWE going to Bristol or even Cardiff but then they would have to do the whole route and if that happened I would take the plunge and buy it along with TSW3, lol. Sad it will never happen though.
     
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  27. jack#9468

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    It will happen, but only in our dreams
     
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  28. matt#4801

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    Yes this would be my preferred section and with a Deltic would just put the cherry on top.
     
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  29. vicarious

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    Exactly. There are some great ideas and suggestions in this thread and others like it but DTG isn't going to implement 99.9% of them so for the most part they are pipe dreams and getting one's hopes up will only lead to disappointment.

    DTG, like other game development companies in today's business climate, is less concerned with creating the best possible product than it is with making the absolute most amount of money in the shortest time for the least expenditures. In this kind of environment it's ok if the product is just 'satisfactory' and customers complain and voice their dissatisfaction as long as enough of them buy the product.

    When I first signed up here I complained a lot about bugs and inaccuracies but the reality is that DTG is going to do what they are going to do and there is very little I can do to influence the direction of the game or which bugs get fixed. There are very few decent rail simulators available and TSW/TSC, flaws and all, are really the only ones worth playing and until a competitor with a superior product comes along or businesses practices change the game won't change much either.

    I get why people are frustrated with TSW's sometimes very annoying shortcomings but life is too short to spend a lot of time and energy on the forum impotently complaining about it. YMMV of course and this is just my opinion.
     
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  30. florians#7620

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    This is still my absolute DREAM route for TSW :love::D

    Would be magic!
     
  31. paulossj4

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    Was it possible that the UK route was Alan Thomson?

    And if it were his, since he is a specialist in ECML and WCML, could be one of these two routes?
     
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  32. 1dart Mart

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    Alan Thompson and a ECML route would be a decent shout :D
     
  33. eldomtom2

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    You could always just not buy it. You don't need to play train simulators...
     
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  34. Redbus

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    Possibly, but likely to be with modern plastic units rather than the classic traction of yesteryear which actually had character and beastly sound (HSTs obviously not included). ;) Seriously though, I’d take modern if naught else were to be had.
     
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  35. Gilly

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    Settle to Carlisle says hello! ;)

    Northern 158's and more 66's if done modern, personally I like to see it set earlier, give me mid to late 80's with 31's, 47's and D200 or twist my arm and go steam if you must!

    Wildly speculative but hey go big or go home...
    I'll get me coat.


    Anyway my money's on Ireland and the Listowel and Ballybunion Railway :D;):o
     
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  36. OldVern

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    Yes always had a soft spot for the S&C and much of the loco or DMU stock required already exists in game and somewhere to really thrash the Jubilee. As a fan of the SIAM Carlisle 1973 traffic simulation I would love to see a detailed representation of the Carlisle area including the avoiding lines, Dentonholme Yards and of course the Kingmoor complex. Could be awesome especially if we got control of hump shunting. Loads of industrial sidings in the area to serve and the power station was still operational and rail served at that point.
     
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  37. Yerolo

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    You're cruel Matt :)

    Regards
    Australian TSW community
     
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  38. dhekelian

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    Sadly I think you're right no matter where you come from. Just imagine if DTG did do routes customers wanted, I wonder what their sales would be like then?
     
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  39. Jpantera

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    They only want WCML, ECML and Merseyrail if suggestions are to be followed.
     
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  40. chieflongshin

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    I think he did cambridge to Peterborough which would be a lovely little add on route with whitemoor yard, more so If a longer project connected it to new street
     
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  41. pessitheghost

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    I have always wondered how much of a cash cow a ECML or WCML would be
     
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  42. Jpantera

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    We already have the WCML in SoS and that sold well although many won't acknowledge its as WCML as it doesn't have full GSMROnehandleandflyingmoths....


    We also have the ECML in TVL but I will just leave that there.....
     
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  43. OldVern

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    Given the extent of the Glossop Line, Darlington South to Darlington North would be a fantastic bargain at £39.99... :) :)
     
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    The DB BR 420 has been on the roadmap for the best part of 2 years now but has not been talked about all that much. I suspect alongside releasing for HMA, it could also be part of the German summer route
     
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    The 420 isn't releasing any time soon. It's not even in a drivable state yet. Tsg is busy helping dtg since that takes priority over third party content. Another reason is that hma requires a optimization pass or passes to accommodate the 420 which is also dtgs responsibility so until that happens, no 420. These are all what dtg and tsg have said
     
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    I would be happy if 3 old routes were presented as a summer package, upgraded to new standards and a little extension.

    My desires are related to:
    - new LIRR (new timetable, lighting, landscapes, signaling, freight traffic, DE/DM30);
    - new Brighton line (lighting, class 700/1 with its own schedule, extension to East Croydon - London Bridge, East Coast extension to Eastbourne via Lewes);
    - new Ruhr Sieg Nord (extension to Siegen, new timetable, new lighting, new vegetation, landscape improvements)

    This would be the perfect gift for me!!!! But it won't! Because it's too good!
     
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    For the Blue Mountains route in New South Wales which one is it the 1910 tunnels where they got modified to fit D sets 2015-2022 and the first 1979 Slab Tracks V sets or the Zig Zag route. If it's the 1910 tunnels remember V sets can hold standing room only behind the driver I've done it before Granville to Paramatta on a 1989 build 8143 however we had a broken air conditioning unit.
     
  48. Quentin

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    Chiltern Line FTW. Just Trains have it for TSC, we've already (almost) got a 165, so only need to add express passenger services hauled by class 68+DVT. London-Banbury would be ideal length.
     
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    I'm not 100% sure but I think they don't have Chiltern Railways licence anymore :(
     
  50. Some of this is based on information received and hint from Niddletalbahn.... **


    I guess after Glossop line is released we might get some hints dropped....

    Something big is in the offing.... I hope ROFL


    Paris to Rennes TGV... (give us a race car in Le Mans for a novelty LOL)

    Sydney (Australia) Parramatta urban route

    Japan Odakyu Line *

    Western Lines of Scotland *


    ** Black Forrest route or that area in SW Germany?

    * my ideas but others are from hints and tips....
     

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