Vnhrr Montana Hi Line Does Not Work Anymore

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  1. torfmeister

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    Tried a few scenarios - each one freezes on loading. Only seems to work in 32bit now.

    Your experiences please :)
     
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  2. OldAlaskaGuy

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    Same results. CTD all scenarios and all drive modes in 64 bit. Filed a report.
     
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  3. samsonbo

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    Same experience here, loading Career scenarios 64 bit(no dx12) locks up at loading splash screen, seems OK using 32 bit....
     
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  4. torfmeister

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    DTG JD Can you forward this? I know you're mainly on the TSW forums (they're getting all the attention :( ;) ), thanks in advance.

    I have found the issue - it is the signal scripts in Assets\VNHRR\HiLine\RailNetwork\Signals\BNSFScripts

    That's why you can access the route in the editor, as scripts are not being executed there.

    These are binary (.out) - TrainSim-Steve can you work that out in cooperation with Rick Grout (G-TraX) or his friend Michael Stephan (VNHRR)?

    cmd: dir /s *.out, removed BNSFscripts folder, starting scenario, loads up!
    2023-06-23 10_16_02-.png
     
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  5. torfmeister

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    Stevens Pass also affected - as any route using G-TraX signals it seems.
     
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  6. samsonbo

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    Torfmeister, You get my vote for Most Valuable Poster on this forum, thanks so much for all you do for us...
     
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  7. torfmeister

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    Thanks for your feedback, samsonbo. I do hope we have a community manager left that interacts with the TSC base :)

    I've sent a message to Rick Grout, as I understand he's the script author. Most US routes were collaboration efforts by Milepost, G-Trax and GreatNortherner.

    dtg_jan ?
     
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  8. Blacknred81

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    Pretty sure Milepost works independently from Gtrax and GN, I don't think he ever worked with Rick or Michael on any projects.
     
  9. torfmeister

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    Alaska Anchorage - Seward was done by Michael Stephan (GN) and Jonathan Lewis (Milepost), Scenarios by Jim Friedland (JBFried).

    Milepost also worked on Soldier Summit and Pacific Surfliner.
     
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  10. Blacknred81

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    Alaska is that weird route that I forget exists sometimes....
     
  11. OldAlaskaGuy

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    I have updated my ticket to DTG as follows: I also can also confirm this CTD on Stevens Pass, VNHRR Springfield, and Montana Hi Line in 64 bit in all drive modes.
     
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  12. claude#1940

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    Has anyone come up with a good work around or are we stuck until there's a fix? I've pulled out all of what little hair i have left, lol.
     
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  13. torfmeister

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    Use 32-bit mode - no issues with 64bit Floating Point maths here ;)

    DTG Jamie Has anyone taken notice? (Have a nice weekend, sorry for tagging :) )
     
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  14. claude#1940

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    I wonder what would cause the issue with the 64 bit mode versus the 32 bit mode?
     
  15. torfmeister

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    64 bit Floating Point maths.
     
  16. pennsy_railfan

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    having the same issue on the New Haven Springfield route, Montana Hi-line, Montana Hi-line & Marias Pass ( Workshop) ( 64BIT )
    The game loads and then freeze on the loading screen.
     
  17. torfmeister

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    Yep, they're all using Rick's signals. Should be fixed soon.
     
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  18. DTG Jamie

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    Will pass the feedback on, think this is something we are aware of, will keep you all updated.
     
  19. unionpacificfan

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    I hope the fix will come on Steam so you do not need go to some third party site and download it.

    And what about fix for Chessie System for 64-bit on Norfolk Southern route?

    I play all my routes on 64-bit.
     
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    Thanks all,

    We're aware of this issue - with special thanks to G-Trax for their kind assistance, we've identified an anomaly in the build server that has seemingly affected the build we published. We're hoping to get a fix out asap (all being well, in the next day or so).

    Best, Steve
     
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  23. Michael Newbury

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    Thank you for the response Steve looking forward to the fix once it's available.
     
  24. claude#1940

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    Now that is great news. I have some Searchlight units that will only operate in the 64 bit mode.
     
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    The teams commitment to future proofing TSC without breaking stuff is fantastic!
     
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  26. pennsy_railfan

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    looking forward to the patch hopefully, it'll be patched soon. :)
     
  27. torfmeister

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    Yeah, Steam update slots must be booked in advance so their servers don't collapse. Needs dispatching like trains do :)
     
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  28. Alex656

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    Does this error still need to be fixed?
     
  29. Reef

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    If you're asking torfmeister unfortunately he's no longer a member here, so will not be able at present to further contribute to this or any other topic.
     
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    I wonder why he left?
    He was quite helpful in a number of different threads
     
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    Prolly banned due to the drama on the MML thread on TSW side discussing court stuff and so
     
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    He was indeed given a temp ban over that but decided not to return and closed his account.

    There's really nothing else to say on the subject because a) it's none of my business and I wasn't involved in the TSW thread/forum and b) this isn't the place to discuss such things anyway.

    Just letting the member know they're not going to get a response to their question is all.

    And yes torfmeister will be missed his TSC knowledge and fixes were/are invaluable.
     
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  33. Michael Newbury

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    Agree with you 100% it's no one business what happened and is not the place to discuss it.

    He will be missed for all the help he gave everyone including me at one time.
     
  34. Alex656

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    Other users also encountered the same problem; I just want to know if the Vnhrr routes or the Stevens pass still don't work with the 64-bit version or if patches have been released on the individual routes; thank you.
     
  35. OldAlaskaGuy

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    This has been going on since the end of April. DTG is mute on this, DTG Jamie said we will let you know and that was a few weeks ago. They keep pumping out new products but no fixes.It is a fix it your self situation. The patches can be found here for Stevens Pass, VNHRR-Springfield, and Montana Hi-Line. Not that hard to do just read the instructions carefully.
    https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/mods/c1-train-sim-classic/c13-patches
     
  36. OldAlaskaGuy

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    Or showing that he knows more than the DTG staff.
     
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    Thank you :love:
     
  38. unionpacificfan

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    Will there be any fix for Stevens Pass, VNHRR-Springfield, and Montana Hi-Line any time soon so they will be playable in 64-bit?
     
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    At the moment it is a do-it-yourself patch go here and download, read all the instructions. A lot better than waiting for another 3 weeks (snarkey I know). https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/mods/c1-train-sim-classic/c13-patches
     
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    It should. It has worked for other people including my self. Review the instructions. Reboot your system after installation and clear the cache.
     
  43. wellington

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    These 64-bit fixes were made 30 days ago, I don't understand why the delay in fixing it on Steam, they can even use these files, they are the copyright holders after all, I only fixed the problem, which was very easy.

    Now if it's going to take another 3 weeks, this could turn into memes. :D
     
  44. OldAlaskaGuy

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    Normal DTG operations. So many things go unresolved over the years. You have an option, use it, consider it a thumb in the eye.
     
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  45. wellington

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    Thanks, coincidentally a guy from the RailWorks America forum gave me this GN Cascadian Route as a gift to check this error in the 64-bit version, because he sent me a private message 15 days ago, only on Wednesday I was able to access the forum. It has been fixed and is now available for download.

    GN Cascadian Route loading bug fixed in v74.8a on 64-bit
    https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m...an-route-loading-bug-fixed-in-v748a-on-64-bit

    My review on this route, unbelievable, the BOX Y-1 locomotive made me dream again, we had a few similar ones around here, I didn't know about this route, it should be sold on Steam, unless it's a particularity that I respect within the case.

    =====

    Everything about the GN Cascadian Route can be found in these links, the first part is paid, the rest is pure fun in Addons and Scenarios.

    GN Cascadian Route
    https://railworksamerica.com/index....imulations/item/316-g-trax-gn-cascadian-route

    GN Cascadian Addons
    https://railworksamerica.com/index.php/download-library/gn-cascadia-addons

    GN Cascadian Scenarios
    https://railworksamerica.com/index.php/download-library/gn-cascadian-scenarios

     
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  46. BlaringHorn

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    I was wondering why the New Haven route I bought last year didn't work anymore... :|

    It's been two months now, what happened to that next day?
     
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  47. OldAlaskaGuy

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    Abandon ye all hope who enter here. It is now a do it yourself fix. Follow the links in post #40.
     
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    I just got on and checked the NY-NH route and it runs just fine so whatever was wrong must now be fixed.
     

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