Tsw4 Release Date Leaked?

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  1. theorganist

    theorganist Well-Known Member

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    I think there was one C-B which did we ever find out what it was? There was speculation it could be Cardiff to Bristol or Crewe to Birmingham. Probably irrelevant now anyway.
     
  2. MAX1319

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    To be honest and have been driving both the MML south and the ATS peterborough/ Cambridge/ Ely? King's lynn route alot lately and the best part of the ECML part in my opinion is up to Hitchin and towards Cambridge. The MML drives feels better and as someone mentioned stations are evenly spread. I like the drive towards St Pancras with the M1 motorway on the side. But if ATS heavily involved on the ECML route then i'm sure we will get an amazing route
     
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  3. Xander1986

    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    Thats a great addition to the game if it works like this! I love the trains from LNER and the colours!
     
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  4. fakenham

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    Well I'm massively hyped for the ECML now, KX to Peterborough hopefully, or even KX to Cambridge. Would be a huge headliner for the sim, I think we've been all been waiting for a route like this for years now.

    Fingers crossed it comes true.
     
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  5. FredElliott

    FredElliott Well-Known Member

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    Apparently the route is also having its centenary year in 2024:

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    So still could be either I reckon
     
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  6. MaxBenchip

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    Yes the name "Flying Scotsman" but not the route itself. I think that the name of the route come from the A3 but I may be wrong.
     
  7. FredElliott

    FredElliott Well-Known Member

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    Other way round:

    In 1924, the LNER officially renamed the 10:00 Special Scotch Express linking Edinburgh and London in both directions as Flying Scotsman, its unofficial name since the 1870s. To further publicise the train, a recently built A1 Class locomotive – at first numbered 1472 and, subsequently, 4472 – was named after the service and put on display at the 1924 British Empire Exhibition.
     
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  8. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    Oh please… stop being such an apologist
     
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  9. antony.henley

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    What about the HST as well. Although there will be half a dozen reskin's by now of various HST's in various liveries that ran on the ECML. If this is also right that the ECML is in fact the UK route for the new 2023 TSW "Golden Balls edition"* summer release then perhaps a Deltic* would be in the offing for DLC also down the line.
    * This is from me pure speculation as I have no idea what the release is called , if there is one et etc etc

    Hentis
     
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  10. MAX1319

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    yes your right .How can I forget the HST which I play all the time in TSC
     
  11. Xander1986

    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    This have nothing with "leaks" to do but more scraping from the internet! In simplified terms... Searching on the internet to get information! Or data analysis!
     
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  12. MAX1319

    MAX1319 Well-Known Member

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    What are the chances if the 700/1 is included on the 3 summer release routes that the BML would get the updated *new core treatment to get the 700/1 in the updated London commuter route
     
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    I would say unlikely, they really don't seem to want to touch BML anymore.
     
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  14. Xander1986

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    This train is not the point but the route is sometimes unstable so DTG have made the decision to cancel the plan! They have try it but it was to unstable
     
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  15. MAX1319

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    I think they always was talking on TSW3. They couldn't mention anything for TSW4 since it doesn't exist yet
     
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  16. Fawx

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    TSW4 is going to be the same for engine limitations. As long as we have Generation 8 attached, we're not going to see anything happen to BML due to memory issues. Since Gen 8 still makes up nearly a third of DTG's business for TSW, they aren't going away anytime soon sadly.
     
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    If everything is right in the scrapers information in post 1 Gen8 is removed in the next update! For me its possible! Gen8 is at the moment 13 years old!
     
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  18. MAX1319

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    with TSW4 they might be able to have two separate timetables as it was just done to SEHS. So I believe might be possible
     
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  19. T.83

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    Would be surprised since I’ve heard DTG say BML was fragile considering they’re unable to fix minor details at Redhill.
     
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  20. mattwild55

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    BML seems to be the patched-together ming vase of TSW - it was a difficult, delayed release and then updates have been very few and far between since release despite some major issues. Even the light baking issue with the 377 cab is still not fixed despite it being picked up in the preview streams.

    It looks like DTG doesn't want to touch it at all for fear of breaking it completely - perhaps this might change if the dispatcher gets a big core update or if memory allocation/usage in TSW4 (or whatever) gets refined a bit.
     
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  21. matt245621#2075

    matt245621#2075 Well-Known Member

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    It's better two know early because we have had no news on what the summer release is gonna be, plus seeing as it's been leaked my guess is that there will be an other TSW 3 like countdown stream or a spring summit type live stream.
     
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  22. Fawx

    Fawx Well-Known Member

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    Matt said in a post about a week ago they weren't going to remove Gen8 anytime soon. Which makes sense considering it's a third of their business.
     
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  23. mattwild55

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    Another interesting thing to note is that SEHS in its latest 'complete' state has almost as many services as BML (1416 vs 1454), has 10 playable locos compared to 6 for BML, and is 40 miles longer than BML.

    Yet SEHS has had substantially more updates and DLC than BML, which suggests to me that SEHS is a fundamentally much more stable and memory-optimised route. So it *can* be done, if the route is built using the latest methods, but unravelling whatever was done with BML in the first place is probably much harder.

    EDIT: In the interest of accuracy, I've ballsed up the number of services - SEHS actually has 710 services on the full timetable, I've counted both the full and reduced timetables together by accident.
     
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  24. MAX1319

    MAX1319 Well-Known Member

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    i don't think they are going to remove Gen 8's but I think going forward we will have a reduce and full time tables set up for Gen
     
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    They did just try to reduce the timetable on SEHS for Gen 8. So maybe the service ammount is nearing it's peak there, and 1454 is over it.
     
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  26. Xander1986

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    If i have the information correct... MS is planning to stop support for Gen8 soon or is already there.... So If DTG is planning to create further it could be possible that this support thing is an issue for further DLCs but thats not confirmed anywere but more a question for me....
     
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    They only removed four playable services / one playable loco and some static stock though - it wasn't a huge change.
     
  28. Mikey_9835

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    I can see a potential ECML route being like a new SEHS where it gets a bunch of new trains and extensions over time. If it's a modern route than the 800 is essential otherwise it would be dead and they can use the 700 from SEHS and the 387 in Great Northern livery.
     
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  29. Fawx

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    Playstation four, and the Xbox Series S (which is basically gen 8) will still exist even if the Xbox One gets stabled.
     
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  30. Xander1986

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    Ah okay thanks! Fawx :)
     
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  31. antony.henley

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    I think you will find there will be nothing more added to Brighton Mainline and Southeastern Highspeed.

    Hentis
     
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  32. MAX1319

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    Agree on TSW3. If it ever gets the Boston or the SEHS treatment,well that might be a different story. They could manage to get two different timetables . Which I think is what NYT might be waiting for the core update to release it
     
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    From the epic database also it appears the prepurchase could start on "effectiveDate: 2023-08-22"

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    Which the same day the article had mentioned
     
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  35. Mr JMB

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    yeah so looks like it is TSW4 after all. Can't be long before the teasers start...
     
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  36. lux#4689

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    well, one of the Smithfield items seems to be named ND23 ...
     
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  37. Kangaroo Conductor

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    "The teasers"

    More like, "The confirmers" at this point :D
     
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  38. locobilly

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    I really hope they do, but please DTG don't end it in Stevenage but go for Kings X to P=boro instead so we can get a good long run on the 800. Fast trains need longer routes. IoW is fine as it's a real life short route and the rolling stock is unique in both itineration's, but please make this sort of diddy route the exception not the norm.
     
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  39. MAX1319

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    So if we get the LNER 800 which version would we get? I hope is the bi-mode so it can be used on a future no-electrified route.

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    I hope for the Bi Modal as well, then it can be repurposed for GWR on a later route.
     
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  41. T.83

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    Don’t hold your breath on anything GWR, there’s rumours DTG have lost their license for future GWR routes plus Matt has confirmed there’s no more work to be done for GWE.
     
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    GWR operate on a lot more than GWE. I'd really love to see them remake South Wales Mainline from TSC in TSW. Or even a route to Penzance.

    If they had lost the license, I'm pretty sure GWE would be removed from sale, like previous times the license has been lost in TSC.
     
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    The speculation mostly came from GWR not featuring on West Cornwall, it wouldn’t be hard to update the line for a modern timetable?
     
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    My guess is that for the UK release it’ll be ECML South(KGX+STP - PBO), with the 700(/0+/1),80x and 387, and hopefully a 717 but not sure. Then as a premium bundle have the flying scotsman included. Then for future dlcs, the list is almost endless. 91 sets, moorgate/hertford loop extension, deltics, you name it.
     
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    I don't think GWR existed as any kind of entity when WCL is set right?
     
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    The original intention for WCL was to be set in the current day but licensing issues prevented this, hence why other than the livery the 150 is in current-day rather than 1990s condition (I think).
     
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    Whether or not it would be removed from sale would depend on the terms they agreed on
     
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    This is good news! And it confirmed that this blog for now is not telling complete wrong info
     
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    Is there any information on what new features DTG will introduce with TSW4?
     
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    That would be great!

    There would be a lot of ceoss border routes in central europe eg (primarely routes that begin/end in Austria).:
    Marchegger Ostbahn (Vienna - Bratislava, AUT - SVK)
    Nordbahn (Vienna - Brno, AUT- CZE)
    Nordwestbahn (Vienna - Znojmo, AUT - CZE)
    Ostbahn (Vienna - Györ, AUT - HUN)
    Summerauer Bahn (Linz - Horni Dvoriste, towards Prague Aut - CZE)
    Passauer Bahn (Wels - Passau, towards Nuremberg, AUT - GER)
    Line Salzburg - Rosenheim, towards Munich, AUT - GER
    Ausserfernbahn: Garmisch-Partenkirchen - Reutte - Pfronten-Steinach (GER - AUT - GER)
    Mittenwaldbahn: Innsbruck - Garmisch Partenkirchen (AUT - GER)
    Arlbergbahn: Innsbruck - Zurich HB (AUT - SUI)
    Brennerbahn: Innsbruck - Brennero/Brenner - Fortezza (AUT - ITA)
    Drautal-/Pustertalbahn: Lienz - Fortezza (AUT - ITA)
    Karawankenbahn (Villach - Jesenice, AUT - SLO)
    Rudolfsbahn: Villach - Travisio Boscoverde (AUT - ITA)
    Line Klagenfurt - Maribor (AUT - SLO).

    Just a short List, there are also others, crossing the border SUI - GER or GER - CZE, but these are not as familiar to me as the Austrian ones.
     
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