Interesting! Is there more information on what we can expect from these new UE tools? If only the passengers were really improved I already would buy it just for that. I would not even care if the entire budget went to passengers only. Let's hope it's not some farce like the caps and umbrellas in TSW 3.
IIRC he said something about programming the passengers as a crowd instead of many individual NPCs. My guess is that they would have better performance and probably not create as many bottlenecks while trying to board the trains. PS: Please keep in mind this is what I expect if the passengers are updated, and NOT any kind of promise by Matt or DTG.
Where did you get that from Central Europe? So I think we'll find out next week, maybe on August 3rd, that's my birthday. So the only things that come to mind for Central Europe are Dresden, Prague, Freiburg, Basel, Dreiländereck and Munich, Salzburg or where you can think of, Munich Innsbruck is also possible
After a couple of days being disconnected from the outside world coming back to this seems quite interesting. My understanding of thaat whole Epic/Steam DB is next to nothing but why would they all have smithfield in front as they aren't all going to be British DLC and why choose Smithfield as the name. I feel this could just be a few coincidences which combined with Flying Scotsman and wishful thinking has fixed peoples minds on a TSW4. If I have totally misunderstood the situation do please inform me as I am saying this as a layman.
Not unusual for projects to have internal "code-names" that mean nothing (sometimes just a random word or an incremental first letter like what Android did for each new version from Cupcake through to Pie). It allows for file and project structures to be created long before final product names are decided on, in this case it could be that DTG were uncertain as to whether they want to market it as TSW4 or rather as an update to TSW3 (like Rush Hour) or ditch the numbering system entirely.
Maybe it's not next week because Tuesday is the 1st August and therefore Dtg would not have enough time to gather very much info to put in the roadmap, it wouldn't be the first roadmap to release on the second Tuesday of the month instead of the first.
Tbf I have noticed that that the road map does happen on the 1st of the month will normally be delayed till the week after so that might be it will just have to wailfor Friday next week
Well they could announce it on the 8 August and then it’s two weeks until pre orders which makes sense. That could be why it’s not next week (the roadmap). If it is definitely TSW4 I hope it has add on manager from the start. Can’t deal with that again
Smithfield is also a location in Snowrunner...All hail our new Focus overlords :p Jokes aside I would like to see some crossover
So will TSW4 be a free upgrade to TSW4 like TSW 2020 or will it be once again a new Git branch from TSW2 calling it a new game?
The ambassadors are players who don’t slag the game off, even when it warrants it and essentially keep schtum on the criticism front for the free codes to keep sliding over. DTG aren’t stupid, it’s a very cheap way to market upcoming content but the propaganda machine is overwhelming around route release time.
Not true in the slightest way. There is no dictation by DTG what to say in the videos. I know that, as I am one. And in my videos and streams i'm not shy of criticism. For example every time I drive the 187 or when the AFB bug appears, i do mention that. Just two of many examples. I think people value honest opinions. And that's why DTG never dictates to their ambassadors what opinion they should have. Also don't forget, that people are still allowed to actually enjoy the game
So, their politics "buy our patch" unchanged? That's sad. What useless garbage I need to buy now - "Training centErE 2"?
Right. And what? Remeber the lot on Steam "upgrade from 2 to 3 for 19.99(or whatewer you have) and get 0 new routes(training centere is not a route for me) and 0 new rolling stock. Just break the system and change the number - limited proposition!" That was a freaking patch for sale. I don't wanna buy another freaking patch. It's disgusting when a set of fixes and improvements(ey! they don't even updated any old routes, just copy-paste) are sold to you for money. I don't know who else does this (except EA).
For me it's all about the 3 routes that come with the new TSW4, I can swallow the fact that I'm paying for a core update that many devs would do for free, providing it comes with 3 new routes and new rolling stock, no extensions to existing routes please DTG. If one of those new routes is ECML current day with an Azuma then it's a pre-order for me. The other 2 routes will be a bonus especially a NY subway. The 3rd route I don't really mind but it would be nice to have something else from Europe other than Germany, perhaps a part German part other country route, but I'd like new rolling stock otherwise Germany is getting a little "red train samey". How about a loco/train belonging to one of their neighbouring countries such as France, Poland, Czech, Austria or whatever, that would be cool and introduce anew livery into the game as well.
Last year one of the main selling points for the TSW3 launch routes was length. The routes were the 3 longest routes in the game. However, 1 was a freight route, the German route was high speed route with 3 stations, and SEHS extended added 6 stations and around 48 miles of track. I wonder what would be the big selling point this time
According to Matty May, Tsw4 is going to include 4 new routes each with a new train, how true that actually is though I do not know.
True... But new routes are no part of upgrades... That's always the case... Other way you have in TSW3 new lightning and 3D cloudes..... Better interface scenario planner etc etc
Emmm... no. Cause all new sky and liting only for a new routes. Yes, there was some old routes updated for free when their recive a new rolling stock dlc. But thats all. Their sale training centere, new number and promising to do some fixes. Sadly, but buying "update from 2 to 3" gives you allmost nothing. And I find it hard to believe that things will change this time.
This info came from another Forum user called Matty May, he's the guy who made the well know 'an open letter to dtg' thread a while back, he said that he has it on very good authority that this is what Tsw4 will be. But like I said, I do not know how true this will end up being, we only have Matty's word for it after all. Edit: his post has been deleted so I'm gonna assume that it was fake.
Selling point was length, since launch we haven’t gotten a route longer than 60 miles since launch ? I would say selling point was dynamic weather
You’re correct after those 3 routes every time after was shorter. But during the reveal they made it seemed that was the beginning of longer routes…. Never happened
No you're wrong... Southeastern Highspeed has received the free lightning and other fixes update Only the extra route parts are not for free
I find the whole "paid upgrade" argument to be so silly. For me, it boils down to whether you want to continue to buy new TSW content with new features- if yes, then you'll need to buy the newest version. If you're happy with your collection as it stands (as in, right now, with potentially no further patches or upgrades), then there's no reason to buy it. I don't see any evidence this is changing for TSW4.
Correct! If you dindt have enough interest do not buy it.. for me this season updates are good quality for less money
Not simple. If I don't want the "core routes", but suddenly want upcoming dlc I need to pay money for the damned patch. Example. TSW4 contents: another boring Germanys LZB route, another British 3rd rail route from London and another boring US pass with 15 mph speed restriction. I dont want this, so I'm pass. After month their anounced countryname routename of your dreams, yeah, you requested it 42 times and there you go. But... you also need to buy the damned patch!
Mate... I give you a lesson... Not everything is free in this life! You have to pay for the things that others have to offer. This discussion is useless I think... It's not that DTG change this policy I guess
Cheers captain obvious. This is why the game is in such a state, people like you who just gobble up the trash no matter how buggy or unfinished it is. We all want the game to be better, stop drowning out the sensible discussion of what should be done to improve the game.
I don't ask - GIVE ME ALL YOU'VE GOT FOR FREE. I just want the same scheme that we already have in TSC: updates for free, new content for money!
