Wcml South Feedback

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  1. Dion Flannery

    Dion Flannery Well-Known Member

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    Same issue on series S. the rest of the route is fine but as soon as I arrive into Euston, the game just crashes.
     
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  2. SierraOscar95

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    Yeah, 100%. All the other routes lived upto to the standard that I'd expect them to be, minus the WCML, but I had anticipated that, so it didn't come as a huge surprise. It's very average at best in its current state.
     
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  3. warpshell

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    Yeah, is should never have launched like that. Matt did live stream drive and it was we need to fix this and and we need to fix that, but they have already given the keys to the customer? Several players on here have started to highlight problems, from frame rate problems to thermal nuclear glowing bins? Errr? Not good enough.
     
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  4. Don't hate me but...

    The feedback, screenshots and footage have done enough to erode my opinions about buying in. I'm in with the standard edition as not too fussed about the pendolino and other deluxe bits. It's worth it for me coming from TSW3 I think, but I'm still significantly disappointed with some of the core shadow and lighting issues, as well as the desolate sense of the WCML.

    I fully intend to keep honking about those and other issues, but will also celebrate that which is good, and San Bernardino looks very good. Hopefully reshade and engine.ini tweaks can do their magic once again.
     
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  5. warpshell

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    You are banished from this land, don't ever come back here again!!!!! Unless you come bearing gifts or complaints. Yeah, I think we all want to buy it, that is why we here to try and drive wcml over the finish line to get it in a place where it would be of a good standard and enjoyable. Best of luck fella, hope it goes well and you avoid TSW4 (didn't miss much) Let us know how you find it? But DTG are rattled, I think they know they screwed up, but lets see how quickly they fix it? If they fix it?
     
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  6. mbjbjm#7281

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    Is anyone else suffering from low res textures in the 390 cab? All the buttons look really strange. Like they are not fully modelled. The DRA button for instance looks horrible.
     

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  7. Midnight

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    Train Sim World 4 Deluxe Edition is £7.99 on Xbox and every other place right now.

    Just wait until this time next year, and TSW5 will probably be the same price... and the class 390 might have suspension by then too. :D

    Great respect to all the beta testers who dropped £59.99 / £104.99 on the early access versions of TSW5, so that the rest of us don't have to. You are doing a great job of reporting bugs.
     
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  8. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Great news, the 390 has suspension now.

    :cool:

    Matt.
     
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  9. alfie__2003

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    Hey Matt, any word on the Series S crashing when terminating into Euston or Watford?
     
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  10. carter

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    Is there any limitation for Xbox series S?
     
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  11. warpshell

    warpshell Well-Known Member

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    I feel really bad for the players who drop money on a broken game, I did warm them not to get it and to wait, but no. Wcml crashs when players go into Watford or Euston for Playstation and Xbox, frame rate drops, plus the guard mode crashes plus all the other problems pointed out in the stream. Fair play for Matt coming on here and then doing a stream , just to help players purchase err I mean help players with their purchase.
     
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  12. LunaVisits

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    You may want to report the font issue in the WCML feedback topic, since no-one has posted it yet.
     
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  13. volvolover1972

    volvolover1972 Well-Known Member

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    For real. And now that the core game is free, I see absolutely no reason not to wait until this time next year when TSW5 deluxe bundle is inevitably on sale for $10. I have a backlog of routes I’ve barely touched that’ll keep me busy anyway.
     
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  14. dean stansfield

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    Plenty happy with the frame rate around the WCML.My system just above the recommended system specs.I'd recommend older system owners update their motherboard chipset driver's and GPU drivers.
    Haven't touched a thing from the default settings upon boot up.
    It's a good looking route.Of course the 350 and the Pendo are brilliant.
    I'll take a look at the other two routes once I've seen everything on the west coast.
    Thanks to all the DTG staff.
     
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  15. theorganist

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    Anyone would think we couldn't make our own minds up!

    You might want to note that some players are enjoying it, it's not a punishment, it's a hobby.
     
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  16. antwerpcentral

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    I must admit that from the 3 routes the UK route is the most disappointing or it could be that UK players always oversell their routes. The rail network in my country looks way busier :cool:
     
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  17. heliq

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    After a couple rides on the route I'm 95% sure the route was done by RIvet.
    Quality Low
     
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  18. lovetrains 3628

    lovetrains 3628 Active Member

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    So my feedback after playing for a few hours yesterday ps4
    Class 390/0 services unplayable havent tried the /1 yet to scared to try in.case it crashes
    Class 377/2 missing
    Likes conductor mode on wcml
    No passengers at euston
    Very annoyed by the bugs why dovetail has it happend
     
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  19. I actually fell asleep before I could pull the trigger because I was dithering over which version, amd now on waking I'm feeling my habitual sense of caution. The Prodigal Son Returns!!
    What is he blithering on about, I hear you ask.. I'm going to get the free version in a few days time, then might pick up something after that once the patches land. Good news about the 390 suspension though.
     
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  20. Bradley

    Bradley Well-Known Member

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    What’s the key for 390 speed set activation please?
     
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  21. londonmidland

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    Here
     
  22. mattwild55

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    Do you mean the 350? I thought the 390 had suspension from launch?
     
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  23. squerble

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    That doesn't answer the question ;) is there a keyboard shortcut for the speed set button?
     
  24. richtayls

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    It (the 390) does, Matt was replying to someone claiming it doesn't.
     
  25. warpshell

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    What happened is you feel asleep your brain went to work going over which version to buy and your brain just went HELL NO!!! The free version is the safe option, sit on the fence and watch Matt do all the streams about which bit DTG have patched, note I said streams not stream, this is going to take months to fix. Prodigal Son is welcome home, we shall feast, grab some popcorn and watch it unfold. Console players are reporting issues with crashing when they pull into Euston or Watford, there is no way you can call a game enjoyable if it is at that and certainly not of a good standard. Suspension is a myth, like Unicorns, I will only believe in it when I see it :)
     
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  26. warpshell

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    Some guy was on You Tube claimed all trains in TSW5 would have suspension, not sure if we can believe him because he made the same claim about TSW4? Can't remember the guy's name, but he has a pink headset, if that helps?
     
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  27. as4760

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    Is anyone experiencing crashing not only outside, but inside Euston? my game crashed outside Euston & then crashed on me again when I was in the platform just about to open the doors after finishing the service - both my runs were 350 (yet to try the 390) & I am on Series S.
     
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  28. theorganist

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    It's quite telling how you seem to be enjoying people reporting issues!
     
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  29. ididntdoit

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    I did a full run in the 710 to Watford. See one other 710 at Watford hi st. Oh plus 1 stabled near Willesden jct.
     
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  30. warpshell

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    Yeah, what you need to come back to me with is "all players are enjoying it", but you can't and that's being my point. You are buying an unfinished product and you are letting DTG away with it again. At this rate TSW6 will just come to us as code. Going forward DTG need to just focus on the core of the game, launching a new core every September and then do DLCs throughout the year because it seems they can't do both well and it puts too much pressure on them, I know about the shiney new train selling copies of TSW, but....! I want TSW5 and wcml to be a success, that is why I am here, but I don't want to be taken on a ride either and sadly it happens ever year. TSW4 broke it for me, it took ages to fix with patches and here we are now with TSW5 and....the wcml is a car crash or train crash, console players reporting bad frame rates and crashing issues with wcml, that doesn't sound enjoyable at all.
     
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  31. warpshell

    warpshell Well-Known Member

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    Raise a support ticket with DTG, they need to know.
     
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  32. ididntdoit

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    On the plus side I did see a couple of nice puddles.
     
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  33. AvfcWalpole7

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    PS5 Player here with my feedback for the WCML South.
    My first journey was a Class 390 from Milton Keynes Central - London Euston. I must say the Class 390 looks absolutely stunning and is enjoyable to drive.
    I struggled to setup the AWS but I eventually figured it out.

    I love the Audio sounds when changing from Neutral to Forwards and then with the brakes releasing into the moving off sound. They have been done really well. I also note the distinctive whine sound when accelerating and slowing down sound great too.

    However at 125mph the train just sounds the same as it does at 60mph and is quiet and innaccurate in the cab. It should sound like the Class 801 Azuma and I also note there is no change of sound when travelling through tunnels which also feels unrealistic.

    The Class 390 and Class 350 frequency is just about ok and frequent enough, yet I must say the Bakerloo 1972 and London Underground Class 710 timetable is completley underwhelming and im dissappointed by it. Trains are not frequent enough. Im seeing only 1 maybe 2 London Overground services and around 3 London Underground Services. I really wish this is addressed and a new timetable is implemented.

    I drove the Watford DC line and the Class 710 and I must say it was fun seeing all the trains on the WCML whizz by beside me.

    I have not drove the Class 350 yet so cannot give my opinion, but I can say that they sound great. One departed when I was at MK and I was very impressed with the sound.

    One last thing, I love opening and closing the Class 390 doors. The audio is so good.
     
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  34. warpshell

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    Great, they got the puddles right :)
     
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    Many thanks. Will do! :)
     
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  36. FredElliott

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    Perhaps, just maybe, you should consider stepping away from your keyboard for a short while
     
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  37. theorganist

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    I don't need to do anything.

    It is a shame that some are experiencing crashes, I am sure DTG will address that quickly as it's a fake breaking bug.

    It seems plenty are enjoying it so it isn't all bad.

    I don't remember TSW4 being broken.
     
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  38. theorganist

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    Matt has been on the forums and answering questions and trying to help people. He is also very aware of the timetable issues. Not sure he deserves to be singled out in such a puerile way.
     
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  39. warpshell

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    Sir, I wouldn't insult your intelligence by replying to you on that subject. :)
     
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  40. warpshell

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    No, I didn't mean you literally need to come back, never mind. The game crashing tends to be a deal breaker. You had no problems with TSW4 ok? What machine are you on?

    And as for DTG fixing the bugs as they go, that has been my point, TSW shouldn't keep coming into the market with bugs in it. It will be several months in again.
     
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  41. Edit- clarification. Reverb is apparently present. If it doesnt work suggest uodating settings and drivers etc etc..

    No revert in tunnels? That's disappointing.. the soundscape is a heavy immersion element and if its wrong, it really jars. It should be a default item by now.
    I can't think of a single railway sim that doesn't have reverb in tunnels..


    facepalm-really.gif
     
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  42. richtayls

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    I picked up the game because I felt the US and German routes were worth the money, WCML will get a couple of runs to try out the new trains, then I'll wait for DTG to improve things before really diving into it.

    I don't really mind being a paying beta tester, I've played this game long enough to know that there will be bugs on release - my issues with WCML aren't 'bugs', they are decisions taken during development, the 710 timetable, the night lighting etc.

    But, like I said, I bought into it safe in the knowledge that I'll be spending many hours enjoying San Bernadino and Frankfurt, I'm more than happy to post bug reports on the forums to help DTG see what needs fixing, and I am very happy that every bug report I post on these forums will provide added delight to those forums members who enjoy reading them.
     
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    If you do conducter mode on the class 350, if you accidently press the buzzer before the local door is shut ( only the gaurd control panels, not the cab) it will not shut, nor be able to shut. The local door is stuck open and will be for the remainder of the journey. (Xbox Series X)
     
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  44. warpshell

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    I think it is more limitation than actual trains me thinks. :)
     
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  45. warpshell

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    Fair play to you for beta testing, the more you report the more DTG have to work with. Maybe next year DTG should release a beta version to everyone, would that be a good idea, call of duty do it?
     
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  46. I think it's more a desire to try and remove the background non route specific repetitive issues like lighting, sound, service intensity, floating cars etc. Feedback is incredibly useful if it provides commonality of theme which I believe it does.
    If someone then takes some sense of vicarious pleasure out of it, that is strange, but it may be that it's a simple validation of perspective process that can be observed, noted and discounted from the feedback loop. Also the good feedback is incredibly useful for us as players as it shows where the bar can be raised to. It makes the bad feedback even more clear as items to focus on for future resolution.
    TLDR- please continue to file feedback as its very useful, both good and bad.
     
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  47. ToffeeKat

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    Disappointed with all the invisible walls running alongside the entire route, hardly get off the ballast shoulder and your restricted, makes taking distant photos impossible, these need removing.
     
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  48. warpshell

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    That's a pain, do a support ticket fella and then DTG have a paper trail so to speak.
     
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  49. AvfcWalpole7

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    Yeah this is pretty disappointing, the whole cab noise is to be honest. It sounds the same at 60mph and 125mph.
     
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    Yeah, hate invisible walls, games shouldn't have to use them in this age.
     
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