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Couldn't agree more. I think we should be able to run any locomotive on any route if we wish. Let the user decide. Braking compatibility accepted...

It's not the cost for me, it's the value. It would be a no-brainer if it was NTP compatible. It doesn't stack up well against the NTP freight pack...

Well yes, I know it wasn't designed then but it was operational in the 80s and was very much part of the 80s scene so to me it was "80s traction"...

The vast majority of 31s were still working throughout the 80s.

I think DD's point is those issues are of DTG's making as it's not been optimised, so on all fronts, DTG own the problem.

There must be something wrong if a BR 80s route and DLC is not even appealing to me, a devotee of 80s traction. I am the niche target audience but...

But that could happen with any train being driven by a player. Even using the "proper" traction as per your example. If it did get used on NTP, I...

The thing is, the console physics for the 47 isn't right anyway. It's probably similar to a 31 and as 31s did occasionally deputise for 45s/47s...

Yep. Apologies. Can see six GD 31/4s in my 1988 P5. And agree about 31/1 on passenger services. Some may still have had working boilers in 83.

All the 31s were dual braked in 1989. Most 31/4s were Bescot/Immingham/Crewe machines if I remember. Don't think GD had any. But remember it's a...

I know. That's why I said he'd alluded to exactly that. I need a coffee.

Not powerful enough as a single you must mean. As I've said, a pair of 31s is more powerful than a single 40/45/47. I guess it's more to do with...

Errrm. I did. That's the point I was making in response to the image posted by Manclion. Namely: [ATTACH]

I agree. If it could be used elsewhere, then that would make it much better value.

I guess it will be £11.99 for one locomotive and one wagon which doesn't compare well to the NTP freight pack (two locomotives and two wagons) but...

I've not got TVL either. Been waiting for it to be reduced. The freight services are too short for me and I feel that this add-on might not change...

Pairs of 31s common on oil: [IMG]31205 and 31126 take the Lindsey to Leeds oil tanks through Stainforth & Hatfield at 14:50. by Jeremy Gould,...

I've always thought blue/grey Mark Is from WSR would be ideal on NTP. They could also be used for things like football specials.

Not powerful enough for the freight role? Isn't that what they will be used for on TVL?!

Think the Mark IIs on NTP are dual braked, dual heat and your point about the 40 is exactly right. Wouldn't stop 31s being used with freight if...

Yay, a goyle. Just one livery though? Skinhead version?

Indeed. And yet the focus has been on mastery. This is not a department level choice. It's come from a level or levels above that. A decision has...

This excuse is smoke and mirrors I'm afraid. It's still a labour resource that costs money. If there's a web development team that has time to do...

Yes, there's a few services you can't complete. I found a couple and since then have not done any 101 services on NTP:...

Did a couple of 166 services on GWE earlier today and just switched on to see and mastery does appear to be registering the two services. On Xbox.

I'm actually a bit embarrassed for DTG on this one. It seems to be a failure looking through these messages. I can only hope some lessons will be...

But the amount of action points given does depend on skill that is learned by experience. Stopping accuracy, keeping to the speed limit etc. So an...

Playing devil's advocate here but isn't the difficulty relatively the same if you don't have the experience gained from those previous levels?

Might try that then. Is there any useful stuff on DTL that I'm likely to miss by not being logged in? I've always used it, so not sure what...

Yep. Those that don't want to see it can't switch it off and those that do want to see it can't switch it on.

You might have a point. It's well known that us console untermensch do love a hot air balloon. Coincidence? I think not.

Maybe Level 42 will be playing at the music festival.

It's odd that I can see the GWE diorama and overlay but can't see the NTP ones. I don't have LIRR or MSB. I'd expect to see neither or both. XBox BTW.

It was a joke to be fair.

I just asked a simple question really. Would prefer not to see it, but like I've said, I can ignore it. Not annoyed in the slightest.

I guess that might cause problems for those that do want to use it?

I wonder if there's any music at the music festival. Perhaps someone could let me know when they are suitably qualified?

That's why I asked if it could be turned off? I'm not suggesting others should be deprived of it, just that there might be a choice. And whilst...

Pay them for the privilege even! I'm enjoying the chip based nature of this thread.

Agreed. I see the usual joy boys are out in force downvoting those that dare criticise the almighty DTG.

A clumsy analogy but I'll run with it. When I'm paying for the fish and chips, I'll damn well have them as I wish and any restaurant that talks to...

You're right. My expectations are too high.

Yeah, I can ignore it but I'd prefer to turn it off. I don't want to see the stats page, especially as it shows routes I don't even have. How...

It looks like the Tier 1 stuff is just about doing things, not necessarily doing them well. Isn't "mastery" about doing things to a high standard?

I thought they'd changed "tutorials" to "training" in TSW2020 so not sure why mastery still calls it tutorial?

Can this be switched off?

Yes. Odd is the word. So it's a gimmick that no one wanted and it doesn't work very well and is not retrospective. That is so DTG! Hilarious!

I can't either. Maybe restart the game?

For real bruv? Oh my days.

So I have the update and there's an intro screen that says what you have to do to unlock stuff but I think I've pretty much done most of them....