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My own personal opinion is it's a very good route and the modelling of the 1972 TS is one my favourite in the entire game. The whole train...

I didn't experience any crashes on the PS5 until I was driving in a storm and entering the tunnels outside of Euston and the game crashed 3 times...

I don't think there is any 'right' or 'wrong' answer. I think, people will naturally pick the country or area they are familiar with. Mine would...

I totally respect that Vern and agree about the sloppiness. Maybe this is a selfish reason for myself, but I wouldn't want to punish the whole...

If only DTG see the sense in doing it too... It'd certainly enhance BCC and give it the edge it needs to bring it to life.

Spot on that... The disappointing thing about Rivet is they are perfectly capable of doing the standard of work expected of them and is not a...

I think it would be silly to abandon it completely if you're a genuine enthusiast. This years release has been a pain in the a*rse I'll grant you...

I disagree there. It isn't graphic and train and AI person just act as ghosts to each other. It's just something that shouldn't be happening is...

It was just more of a shock for me. I know the train and AI will treat each other like ghosts and pass through each other. But you just don't...

I was driving a Pendolino and a passenger stepped off a platform and into the path of my train... We all know nothing can happen. But it give me a...

I just took a dive down it, and I can honestly say I couldn't have predicted that. Jeezo! Hopefully more more details of the upcoming content...

Yeah, for sure, each developer has a 'cross to bare' with previous work so to speak. But with Skyhook and DTG I've found that with every add on...

Quite the opposite for me... I feel the LGV is one of the most underrated, it's a superb little line. The only criticism I have is that the...

To me, this feeds into my own idea that this is a outsourced route and is entirely a Rivet product. DTG are quiet because they just plain and...

I can't say I have... I presume you must have driven them in reality to have the opposite opinion? From the driver training videos I've watched...

I disagree. I think they are spot on (well to me anyway). They are only really sharp if you go into the higher notches of braking application...

It has a 7 step brake notch. They are perfectly sufficient. I only use the first 3 notches anyway. Sometimes only 2!

It's certainly worth the free upgrade but it does feel like it has been a little rushed. I'm sure in time things will be brought upto standard...

It's a very good route now in terms of detail. It's only downfall is it is short natured, especially when you have something like the HST which...

Glasgow Central is the furthest northern point of the WCML with services from Euston terminating there, aswell as return services from Glasgow...

Sincerely appreciate each and everyone who contributed to it. My apologies as I didn't know, so sending my extended thanks to Joe too! Hopefully...

You know what's the most backwards thing? The Class 390 layers onto Cathcart Circle and has the proper destination boards displaying 'London...

Looking forward to the first TSW5 road map. Hopefully more news on the upcoming GWR remaster, ATS, and JTs WCML! Exciting stuff.

In real life Class 66s are only able to reach, and limited to 75mph max. Like with any unit or locomotive they must be able to achieve 10% +, so...

I've got a similar problem where I've downloaded some TSW5 compatible routes but they download and do not show in the game. Very odd... A few...

I wouldn't go as far as saying the thread has run it's course, it may slow down yes, as most of the criticism about it has been raised and...

Nothing personal to you as a person, but there are so many threads with criticism of the WCML, that this is best put as a comment on one of those...

It's certainly not a flop, the American and German routes are really nice and I have no complaints there. I think it's more an error of judgement...

We can establish that the timetable isn't DTGs and the build of the WCML are absolute hallmarks of Rivets (its very similar in a lot of ways to...

Finally got the 710 layer today. I was playing the Watford DC lines earlier, and bloody hell... how that lighting made it into the game I'll never...

I find it odd that DTG have said they mainly focus on modern stuff as "it sells better then anything else", surely JTs success with the BR eras it...

I agree, I don't think it will be fully acknowledged either. From the snippets that have been said on the subject since this whole fiasco...

Completely spot on there! 100%.

Another fault I've found is, when playing in the 390/0 that the stop car markers set for it at Watford Junction heading north are incorrect and...

I believe it's been fully acknowledged for further improvement by DTG already. But the PIS screens at stations and on the units themselves are...

Was also looking for this myself. Thank you!

This is only a presumption but I've a feeling Rivet is responsible for the entire infrastructure of the WCML from the way the whole route has been...

I think you'll find I do own it if you have seen my review, and it's not just some minor errors. There's room for errors in any add on, but the...

All the valid negative feed back is available to read from yesterday onwards. It definitely is a lower quality route and not upto TSW4 standards...

I get the impression atleast with the 350 it was developed by Rivet with the exception of the sounds. The cab air-conditioning doesn't work at...

Also a small error I've noticed, I was on the slow line and being overtaken by another 350 on the fast line going North, still displaying London...

Yeah, 100%. All the other routes lived upto to the standard that I'd expect them to be, minus the WCML, but I had anticipated that, so it didn't...

So I decided to keep my preorder because I was impressed with the German route... The Pendolino is really nicely modelled externally and...

I think it's why they've also completely avoided the 350/1 question, as there are only 30x in that subclass and running 8 car services would leave...

I've said this a few times, so I apologise if I sound like a broken record... But the 'feel sorry for me' routine line we were spun from DTG is...

What can we make of the Frankfurt preview? How a route should be made, and the standard we should expect and DTG are capable of -VS- the WCML,...

A few of my whiskey glasses shattered when I put the brakes on the 385...

I'll be whatever you want me to be aslong as it keeps you quiet and makes you happy... Back on the topic of the WCML, has anyone else see the...

Slightly jealous of the German route it has to be said though!

My next concern is if they have had any part in the development of the rolling stock, now we've confirmed the input they've had on the route....