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See what I mean? They just can't help it. Oh give it a rest. It was supposed to be a thread for people interested in upcoming AP products... so...

Except that it doesn't. It just turns into an argument. I'm not sure what there is that's meaningful from the past couple of pages of this thread....

So... 2 pages of bickering later... what have we learned? That what I wrote in post No.1120 is probably what people should do. "It's probably...

You'll be getting it then, because I guarantee that new scenarios will start to appear on day one, just as they did with SWEP2.0.

You beat me to it. It's the same every time AP release a new product. It was on steroids this time because of all the "a pack for a pack?"...

Don't you start! LOL.

I can't wait for this. It looks amazing. I'm off to read that manual so I can hit the ground running. It can't be long now, or they'd not release...

I'm assuming crossover just lets you run Windows, so just buy it, download it, and run the installer. I'm assuming also that you already have...

Well, that's a shame. It's the only AP sound pack I never got around to buying before they pulled it :(

It's Facebook. It's not a great platform to promote anything. It's just full of old Karens and Gammon shouting at one another. Facebook is...

You're not going to get any modern AP stock I'm afraid. From the horse's mouth, in reponse to direct question regarding the 331... "The chance of...

Dunno... the 40s sound was pretty poor to be honest, and I'm not that impressed with the Deltic sound pack actually. He just throws away things...

Ignore the above. Just got a reply: "Thanks for your interest. It absolutely will work alongside the Sky & Weather Enhancement Pack 2.0. It will...

To what though? We've not seen it yet. Also, no one is asking the right questions: If this is a separate pack, how does it integrate with...

That wasn't his question though. He wanted to know what the point of a graphical update is, apart from being a graphical update. The answer of...

But that's the same as saying, "I see no gameplay benefit to this beyond 'Ooh, what pretty tracks' " with regard to the Track Enhancement Pack....

They said a new one is coming. The old one was a bit rough, so you aren't really missing that much.

It's a graphical update, so apart from improving the game graphically, what else would you like it to do? The track EP makes the tracks look...

I'm not a mac user, but surely crossover just allows you to run Windows? If so, you would just install it as if you were using a Windows machine?

I don't see why not.

Maybe that's exactly what it is.

At this stage, we don't know what it is, how much it will cost, or even whether we need to pay for it at all. We know nothing.

We don't know that it will be. It may be done in such a way that it works perfectly with Sky and Weather EP for those that have it, yet give the...

All suddenly becomes clear.

He's right though.

It doesn't actually say that. It says it's a cloud enhancement pack. It may well be a stand alone addon that works without the sky and weather...

What other versions of Train Simulator are there?

Not to mention that it covers from Manchester in the west, to Leicester in the south, and Lincoln in the east. You could have the MML suite of...

I think that's probably why so many seem to want the Steam version.

You said that AP seem to want to compete instead of working for the common good. Yes, that's an opinion... an incorrect one. What you are saying,...

Well, there is opinion, and there is fact. Re: AP and the class 47, it's probably best if AP themselves have the last word. "We are trying to...

FFS..... AP have made it very, very clear that they don't do their own modelling, so they are NOT "competing" with anyone who may, or may not be...

Don't get the Steam version, as if you do, you cannot expand it with the others from the JT MML range of routes. It will forever be a stand alone...

I don't agree with your statement - you can choose whatever gender you like - it's your life, no one else's, but I defend your right to say it,...

Do us all a favour, and just lock any AP thread instantly, because the same people just arrive and start slagging AP off every single time......

Oh my yes. If you get reported enough times in here, you just get canned, regardless of whether it's justified or not. You can basically get...

Given all that you have said, and your 'pride' in not being an AP customer, I think it's a fairly safe bet.

It's not just about the price of the products though. The guy has to live. We're not talking about Tesco here... it's not a massive company. He...

But you're not a customer. You 'proudly' don't buy anything from AP.

You're free to pay it, or not. If customers decided the prices that companies charge, then it would be a busy day at the bankruptcy courts.

Thank God... someone trustworthy with an opinion... not like that AP shill Pookeyhead, I mean... he only paid for half of the catalogue, so he...

You mean like people moaning about the price of AP products? Seriously, what did you expect to be reading in a threat titled "Armstrong...

Don't feel too bad. There's is just way further along than yours, so they've clearly been working on it for some time without you knowing. It's...

Does it matter when it was, or why? It happens. It doesn't matter that it happened 10 years go... because a licence expired... or because the...

[snivelling adenoidal train spotter voice] "yeah, but this isn't a real product, and there's no reason to delete it, and they should tell us when...

I don't even understand this argument anyway, as DTG have got rid of DLC off Steam without informing anyone before now, and no one cried like...

I best run out and buy 500 bags of Wotsits then. I love those little cheesy puffs... and they could just disappear at any time!!

Your suspicion is correct. Apparently though, now I've won that competition, the fact that I have previously spend hundreds on their products is...

You need to stop saying this, as it's specious, and childish. I won that competition on March 30th this year. I've been a strong advocate for AP...

So no game, ever, has ever been deleted? I find that hard to believe. Besides, it's not a game, it's DLC for a game. The 142 was on sale for...