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All stuff that shouldn’t have been wrong in the first place! And as regards track joint sounds, yes important but on a route where 90% of the run...

Didn’t want to add to my wall of text above but one further thought… Most of us have so much content in TSW or the other sims there is absolutely...

I’m fairly certain in TSC the services were split in two halves. Still you would think TSW could cope with trains returning back whence they came.

At the end of the day, same as last year if it is TSW5 we will moan and grizzle but probably end up buying it anyway. Particularly if the route...

FTFY… C: Never.

Part of the reason we don’t have more people developing for TSW is DTG’s own fault for sitting on the tools for five years. Then when they do...

Maybe, maybe not. That house just embedded in the terrain, no garden, no fence, looked fairly final to me. And as mentioned earlier in another...

Sadly that is an impression I get. Or they are all just treading water while things are taking place behind the scenes. Anyhow better not get too...

It would be a good platform to launch something like the Class 25. However as Jack notes above, other than maybe layering in the existing steam...

Despite the interesting prototype (which I think was done as freeware in MSTS), DTG have stated they are not doing any more North American freight...

Any experienced route builder with a bit of pride in their work would have taken one look at that and decided, no that's not the picture I'm...

New York to Trenton for 80% off. Worth getting for that price or still a dud?

Indeed. It's been said before only a minority of the customer base use the forum or any other sort of social media. So the sales will still come...

Noticeable that the thread just posted by Rivet and rubber stamped by DTG to say they will "publish and be damned" has been locked against further...

This is exactly it. Rivet may be the developer but DTG are still publishing it through their own stores on the various platforms. Not like TSC...

Absolutely. For starters they need to show some before and after images of locations identified from the stream. This really smacks of...

Interesting... Some sort of internal ruckus at Rivet, perhaps? Or they are about to acknowledge the route is sub par and pull the release.

Then either DTG and/or Rivet need to go back to school when it comes to professionalism. You check and cross check that what's being shown is the...

Exactly this. Which is why those urging us in other threads to just buy anyway and wait for the fixes are seriously misguided (or have an...

I don’t really feel bad for Jasper. Not clear from the Rivet Games website who does what but I’m assuming he is fairly senior in their hierarchy....

What we really need at this point is a statement from DTG as to what their intentions are in light of the very poor response the stream has elicited.

Are your standards that low or are you just easily pleased? Or are you a Rivet employee trying to spin this mess of a route?

Nonsense. This is not some unforeseen bug that cropped up after release. It is a wholesale failure of 3D modelling and route building technique...

Why? You seriously consider this garbage is worth £30. I wouldn’t even pay £5. You are seriously in a tiny minority if you do, the overwhelming...

They could salvage the 170 and do that as a slightly retro pack for E to G along with the 158 when it arrives.

With all due respect Jasper, this sort of thing should have been picked up by yourself and your people when the route was in alpha stage. Did the...

Sadly there are always those who will just put on rose tinted spectacles and let their obsession with the product blind them to reason. The other...

Just said this much in one of the other threads. Frankly if this goes out the door, then whoever is really in charge at DTG needs to roll some...

Those buildings look like something we would have popped out of Trainsim Modeller for MSTS 20 years ago. In fact even then I think we would have...

Well there was me wishing I'd kept a bit back from the Steam sale to cover a preorder of this. Glad I didn't. If DTG have any conscience or...

Just glad I didn't preorder and it looks as if earlier scepticism re Rivet was well founded. It's really time for someone high up at DTG to take...

Possibly because Sony and Xbox/MS would rather see a new title than just update an existing one, even though they would still be getting money...

Me too on that. If that is genuinely how they sound then fair enough, just coincidence. But you can't help wondering whether it was just synthed...

I hear what you're saying Matt but it doesn't seem to be putting any sort of dent in activity for TSC. Feather River Extended has just come out,...

Does seem to have gone off on a branch line from discussing the (it seems highly possible) update and extension to LIRR. Which may well be going...

For me something like the old South London network in TSC would have represented the capital much better. Or the Whitton Circle from Waterloo,...

BCC would have been an excellent springboard for a West Midlands network, but the main reason I don't play it much (apart from the tedium of 90...

Not come across anything.

The only chance routes in more exotic locations will get built is via the user tools, unfortunately.

Much as I’m on the fence about getting this, I do tend to agree. What we are getting is a fairly substantial run and the equivalent of what’s in...

Something I definitely need to try!

Yes quite a rubbish thing to put in something purporting to be a serious simulation and licensed from the train operator. What were they thinking?!

They did the same thing with Cathcart for Mastery. You had to exceed the speed limit by a considerable amount. Quite ridiculous really when it’s...

I'd say that's a fair point. It also seems to be over-running a bit in terms of the announcement to move out of early access and enhance the...

As above, has there been some oversight and QA on Rivet's sound and physics for the Class 170? Probably the one real barrier preventing most of...

Just watched some of the DadRail stream and he pretty much nails it. Nice route but even more stop/start than Cathcart or BCC and questionable...

Supportive like the Inquisition en route to the Forge and Rack!! :)

Great insight. I mean despite my reservations I will probably pick this route up later in the year once it’s available with a bit of a sale...

The performance issues are only one part of the equation stopping me personally from buying. But please feel free to enjoy if it's ticking your boxes.