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Thanks to Jasper for finally responding. Guess we now just have to sit back and see if our concerns have been noted and more importantly acted upon.

Not watched the stream but reading the feedback has allayed the slight concerns I had. Looking like this is back to a Day One purchase for me.

And the other very important point to remember, at no stage of the selection and interview process give the impression you are a rabid train...

Well the moral of the story is that if you don’t complain, nothing will get done. Chances are if you complain still nothing will get done, as...

That will be the catalyst to get a new PC and goodbye train games for a couple of months! Though in truth I would be more excited about a new...

I have a feeling if you need to ask that on a train sim forum... Anyhow for starters you need to be a steady, reliable person particularly when...

And therein lies another problem. Already got a plethora of short point to point routes and I am becoming less inclined to buy each and every one...

Well they never did with WCL finishing at St Austell when they could have pushed a few miles east to Par, a major junction and much better...

If you buy the TSC routes in a sale it doesn't work out that expensive. I intend to pick up the Tirano section in a couple of weeks when the Steam...

Indeed. Where has the innovation that brought us the Class 20 and Class 31 for TVL, or the 40 and HFP for NTP gone? Buried in a sea of mediocrity...

Even Ambergate on PFR was more logical being a junction, even if it did leave us feeling a bit short changed when the route should have gone to...

The public editor is still in not much of a fit state to do anything with. Still lacks documentation, issues with sourcing terrain textures and...

Suspect many are thinking likewise. I’m even sitting on the fence ATM over the Blackpool route following the revelation the 142 sounds may not be...

To be fair the HST and Class 158 are very good. The HST in particular with the VP185 engine sound and cab doors open in motion far better than the...

Well we don’t know how far on the project is but I would assume all developers keep a backup of the final uncooked version otherwise how could...

Bingo! No one expects perfection but there is a YT reference recording posted earlier in the thread and the JT sound guy should be mixing the...

Having travelled on heritage DMU's with Leyland engines and Class 142's with TL11's even with the lapse in time I am quite certain the sound is...

Agreed. We need a Class 70 or maybe a 60 or even 56. Just another cash grab, I'm afraid, from the low hanging fruit.

Jasper_Rivet - Many of us are still waiting for your answer on this one, [Removed - Alex: Inappropriate]

However on the streams or other PR, it has not been unknown for DTG and partners to refer to reskins as "new locomotives" which IMHO they are...

Appreciate the clarification. Was speed reading the thread while wife was nagging me about something and it doesn't pay to not listen to what she...

Oh I fully appreciate that but once again we come back to the familiar TSW story that seems to afflict every recent release regardless of...

The problem again is probably not the engine sound per se but how it relates with the exhaust and bodywork of the vehicle. Edit: Found this link,...

The TL11 is several generations apart from the BUT Leyland or AEC engines fitted to first gen DMU's. The whole exhaust system reverberation and...

The other incidental feature Rivet are missing by starting at Ospizio are the few sections of the line where you can get the trains up to a...

Yes several times over the years and to me the section from St Moritz and the climb from Pontresina through Morteratsch onto the High ground was...

It's actually around 20 km or 12 miles of which some will have had to be created to provide a realistic setting around the ersatz end point. From...

As regards Rivet costs, well not based on any inside information but I would not be very surprised if their setup is essentially an association of...

If you're going to come on a forum for a product where most users have mixed views of it and post over ebullient, somewhat blinkered praise on it,...

Well I'm glad your inside information on Rivet is so astounding. Never ceases to amaze me how people can come on here and defend the indefensible....

You are totally missing the point. The shortness of the route in this case makes no sense. It is supposed to be the Bernina Line which runs from...

Which is shameful really considering the magnificent collection the TSC version comes with. Yet Rivet/DTG will want £30 for this partial route...

I was fortunate to travel on the BEX in the 1980’s when one of these magnificent machines headed the train from Pontresina along with a 51 class...

Now let’s see following the Rivet announcement… TSW RhB Bernina Bahn will be Ospizio Bernina (a minor intermediate station) to Tirano. TSC RhB...

Sadly no Dino. They just see the £££ signs flashing at the thought of the commission they will get for selling this. Just took a run on the TSC...

Also please address on the stream why DTG have agreed to accept the Bernina Line from Rivet when it starts at a relatively minor intermediate...

The whole appeal of the line is the varied landscape it travels through on the journey, from the upmarket hustle and bustle of St Moritz, the...

Hardly. Pontresina is a major depot on the Bernina Line and an interchange node. The climb up on to the high moorland after Morteratsch is just...

I really can't see a logical reason not to go to Pontresina at least. It sounds like someone came up with the idea for the route, given a time...

A pretty mundane Roadmap, TBH. Already commented in the Rivet speculation thread that the decision to start the Bernina Line at Ospizio is...

And you miss the spectacular climb up through Morteratsch (sp). Yes we know how hard the TSW Editor is to use but Rivet route builders are...

Is there a link to the source for the screenshots and route info that has suddenly appeared? A partial representation of the Bernina Line is not...

I know but thought it worth noting the issues in case anyone from DTG is looking (or cares).

The Jubilee and 8F are still way overpowered. The 4F outperforms the 8F. Flying Dustbin physics are a joke, virtually impossible to run out of...

And TSC 9.5/10 for the steam experience as opposed to about 3/10 in TSW (1.5/10 for the Flying Dustbin).

Well ISTR Rivet are at least loosely associated with Thomson who did the TSC version, so hopefully the two will liaise closely and any suitable...

This is going to be fun!

Unless things have changed, GSM-R emergency will go to the controlling signaller, also listen in to the appropriate NR Control. Normally preceded...

Will that be Swiss cheese? Once again, I'll get my coat...

In summary, again, like any new route I will judge on its merits. The iconic Bernina Line vs the known and possible shortcomings of a Rivet product.