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We can establish that the timetable isn't DTGs and the build of the WCML are absolute hallmarks of Rivets (its very similar in a lot of ways to...

Finally got the 710 layer today. I was playing the Watford DC lines earlier, and bloody hell... how that lighting made it into the game I'll never...

I find it odd that DTG have said they mainly focus on modern stuff as "it sells better then anything else", surely JTs success with the BR eras it...

I agree, I don't think it will be fully acknowledged either. From the snippets that have been said on the subject since this whole fiasco...

Completely spot on there! 100%.

Another fault I've found is, when playing in the 390/0 that the stop car markers set for it at Watford Junction heading north are incorrect and...

I believe it's been fully acknowledged for further improvement by DTG already. But the PIS screens at stations and on the units themselves are...

Was also looking for this myself. Thank you!

This is only a presumption but I've a feeling Rivet is responsible for the entire infrastructure of the WCML from the way the whole route has been...

I think you'll find I do own it if you have seen my review, and it's not just some minor errors. There's room for errors in any add on, but the...

All the valid negative feed back is available to read from yesterday onwards. It definitely is a lower quality route and not upto TSW4 standards...

I get the impression atleast with the 350 it was developed by Rivet with the exception of the sounds. The cab air-conditioning doesn't work at...

Also a small error I've noticed, I was on the slow line and being overtaken by another 350 on the fast line going North, still displaying London...

Yeah, 100%. All the other routes lived upto to the standard that I'd expect them to be, minus the WCML, but I had anticipated that, so it didn't...

So I decided to keep my preorder because I was impressed with the German route... The Pendolino is really nicely modelled externally and...

I think it's why they've also completely avoided the 350/1 question, as there are only 30x in that subclass and running 8 car services would leave...

I've said this a few times, so I apologise if I sound like a broken record... But the 'feel sorry for me' routine line we were spun from DTG is...

What can we make of the Frankfurt preview? How a route should be made, and the standard we should expect and DTG are capable of -VS- the WCML,...

A few of my whiskey glasses shattered when I put the brakes on the 385...

I'll be whatever you want me to be aslong as it keeps you quiet and makes you happy... Back on the topic of the WCML, has anyone else see the...

Slightly jealous of the German route it has to be said though!

My next concern is if they have had any part in the development of the rolling stock, now we've confirmed the input they've had on the route....

Watching snippets of the German route this evening. Cor blimey, but the huge difference in the type of lighting being used is very noticable. To...

The flag ship route we all hoped for being delivered... Superb stuff from JT as always... is it bad I prefer the executive livery on the 87s?...

The thing that still annoys me, is anytime that Rivet get any criticism, you will get this undertone of them looking for sympathy. I've never...

I think we should now all just hold off of turning on each other, I would not want to distract away from the point at hand... Or get a second...

I don't want to interfere with debate you're having with others. But as I've mentioned I don't want to create a 'them and us' attitude between...

That you were the Butcher in Coronation Street between 1994 and 2006!

I totally agree the money/profit will make a difference in the grand scheme of things. But, people have to analyse and make a decision for...

At the end of the day we can't be telling others what they should and should not be doing, let people draw their own conclusions. Personally as...

Yeah I understand and respect that. I think I've got everything off of my chest now, and I can't add anymore to the thread unless more...

The huge backlash I feel is because time and time again, that the constructive feed back given to Rivet, on every route, on every add on, is...

Spot on there Vern!

Most of the original TSW content from the early days does was not entirely accurate... But most UK timetables since TSW3 seem to be very accurate....

So there we have a confirmation, Rivet have been involved. That will fill in some of the blanks... With all due respect to Alex, I and many other...

To be honest your post is the only one being slightly provoking to others sharing the opposite opinion to yours... Let's not turn this thread...

I may have misunderstood so stand to be corrected, but usually ambassadors make preview streams before the public release, (including early...

Also to add, that timetable is final, so very much doubt it will be fixed. So yeah, nail in the coffin for me, this is abysmal and for this to be...

If the Rivet rumours are true, outside of the timetable and scenery that have been discussed, does that leave the possibility that they have...

I completely agree with all the valid criticism as I'm hugely disappointed myself with this shambles, but let's not be rude to the messengers and...

I've been saying this in the previous thread to about holding Rivet accountable if proven... Transparency about route development needs to be a...

Maybe I've misunderstood something, and please feel free to clarify with me what this means, but what does "working in conjunction with multiple...

So the update for the improvements for the WCML have been released, I don't know how I feel about it at the moment. Not particularly buying the...

Got to love some good 'ol Blood & Custard, it has got some really good information on there!

I didn't necessarily see stuff aimed towards staff, but I did see some swearing and some nasty arguments starting, and I will say in fairness,...

They didn't promise a specific day, what they did say was 'early next week' to release a article regarding feedback, so what I am saying, is, my...

Yeah Southern Region EMUs are slightly more difficult to learn about as there are many variations dating back to the 1920s all the way through to...

I think that comment was more of a side note in the article, I'd personally suggest for people to wait until Wednesday for the article we were...

I'm hoping going forward this will be a tough lesson learnt for DTG never to repeat the same mistakes... We've had some really good quality routes...