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Does everyone only want to drive what they see around them though? I enjoy driving Victorian tank engines in TSC and I was born seven years after...

I can't think of any UK based add-ons, there are several steam loco's on the Caledonian Works website but no routes that I can think of. There is...

I think you are probably right. It seems many people on the forums want to drive the trains you can actually go and ride on in real life. The...

But they would have been rare on the route, in fact for much of the 1980's Tyseley had very few Met-Camm vehicles, mostly making up three car sets...

Oh I know, I was hoping someone from DTG might see it and get the hint ;) I know I was responding in context to another comment.

Also, within the scope of the route the class 323 is THE train that runs the route and building any other new trains is not going to really be...

True but it would be nice to see one of the other 30 or so examples of first generation DMU's produced rather than DTG's the class 101 fits all...

I am sure I saw on UKTS a couple of years back someone was showing renders of a class 85, it may have just been a cab. I can't recall whether it...

Set in the 1950's it would be an interesting short branch with all the sidings in Stourbridge basin and the very steep incline up to the town...

DLC prices haven't changed in at least 12 years so I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect a price increase, everything else has gone up,...

The class 166 would be very unrealistic! The closest you would see them is Worcester. If they added in unrealstic layers you couldn't turn off...

I know but for realism I would prefer the most realistic train for the route. There are other routes which use the class 172 as a core which could...

Oh okay I hadn't realised that. I still think a 170 would be a better choice as they certainly are/were the main units used.

I don't think 172's run this route they are on the Snow Hill lines. I prefer driving diesel units and if one fits then I agree why not include...

That is a diesel train and won't be running the Cross City services just the New Street to Worcester/Hereford service at the bottom end of the...

It is Birmingham Cross City route not the cross country route. A small part of the route also sees cross country services.

I have seen many complaints but maybe it gives an unfair impression of the service as I guess those who are satisfied don't complain. I am...

That is even less frequent than I thought. The Cross City seems to be vying with the Snow Hill lines for the worst service in the West Midlands.

I think it uses the timetable from 2019 as it was the busier pre-pandemic timetable, whether the actual route is set in 2019 visually or 2022 I...

I am sure I read something about a class 196 being referenced or referred to, which is the DMU replacing the class 170's on the Shrewsbury and...

They would only make a Voyager for a route where it could have a decent run. They aren't going to make one just for AI traffic. A am sure if a...

They did that with WCL which was the main reason I never bought it. I personally don't want to see unrealistic layers unless they can be turned...

They were rare, London Midland only had a small handful after the class 172's arrived. At one point class 150's were banned from the Lickey...

Yes that is true I suppose it will take time. I am sure a Voyager is bound to appear eventually, certainly one would be great layered into Cross...

So what about for those of us who might want to see older trains, have we to just forget diversity just have multiple units from the last thirty...

There won't be a depot sadly. Unfortunately as much I enjoy a lot of what DTG do and I am almost certainly going to purchase Cross City, you get...

Yes there is a saying in Birmingham. What the Lufwaffe started, Frank Price and the city council finished!

Well presumably if they released a class 50 or 55 it would come with the requisite suitable route, i.e. a 1980's GWML or 1970's ECML for example...

I was slightly paraphrasing other comments, Birmingham is a great city in most parts.

I looked at Ship Sim but wasn't convinced it would be very exciting. As much as I like a journey on a canal boat I definatley don't think it would...

There are no orchards in the "industrial wasteland" of North Worcestershire. Don't forget Birmingham is just factories and foundaries with tall...

Well yes absolutely room for both. I would too love to see the Cambrian it is one of my favourite stretches of line, the fictional Crabenmore...

Quite, it will be varied route, offering a good mixture of countryside, suburbs and city, frankly I can't see what there is not to like. From...

Oh yes please definately, chances of it happening - vanishingly small!

I guess it happens in many places, they do tend to be a big part of a persons identity so it can be quite insulting as they are often...

So you mainly want routes which are pretty?! Most of those routes would offer very little more of interest in terms of rail traffic than the...

Then people should research and discover facts. They don't even need to get off their rear ends and walk to a library anymore, it is in the same...

At least 20 years ago really. It has had much regeneration, starting with the Brindley Place development and the building of Symphony Hall back in...

Haha of course but Birmingham is more than just the sum of its parts. Also the route is as much outside of the Birmingham city council area as...

You aren't but those who don't like the choice seem blind to the fact that other people have suggested it or might dare have a differing opinion....

Where is this vast industrial wasteland you speak of?

I have friends who live near there, it is a nice part of Birmingham. I live around 25 minutes away and visit there regularly. I just get annoyed...

I don't know where all this Birmingham bashing comes from. Presumably by people who have A) never been or B) went 40 years ago when it was a bit...

There have been many complaints on here about the lack of recent UK content, I think there would have been a lot of moaning if DTG announced they...

It would be great to see it extended to Worcester or even better Hereford. You would get the contrast from the big city station to the much more...

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It was a blanket statement, "I can tell this is going to be a bad route (full stop)"!

Thanks for being the community spokesperson! If you bother to look a couple of posts above this thread you will see evidence of at least five...

No it has never been suggested, nasty DTG!! https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/birmingham-cross-city-line.57444/...

Well I suspect this is going to be a DTG route not a Rivet route as DTG have recently made it for TSC. I would be happy to be proved wrong however.