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You can keep the kidney pudding, but the rest sounds good =-)

Again, it's a niche thing. If 99% of the people aren't demanding it, then the mods are there for the 1% that are hard core. It's very few people...

And I figured that was the Class 86, the sister to the 87 that is already on the TSC version of the route.

Since I haven't seen it posted in this thread, here's the official Just Trains FAQ from their website that they keep updated....

To be fair, all UK train horns suck. German ones too. If you aren't scaring the LOVE out of bystanders, they aren't doing their job. ;-) Your...

Honestly, I thought the sounds and lights were BETTER on this one than the previous ones. Haven't had any of these issues on the WCML Class 66 so...

Maybe it's a niche thing. I honestly don't notice as probably 99% of players. The few times I've ridden as a passenger those routes didn't have...

Intrerestingly enough, for all the hate, Rivet has some decent announcements on the Fife Circle.

I think that was covered above. Although I Free Roam it on many maps since others aren't in game (yet?)

Yes, but they were designed to British specs to "look British" and run on British railways. They don't run in the US and a relatively small...

British locomotive (Class 86) [IMG] French locomotive [IMG] Class 90 [IMG] Just saying... has anyone done a paternity test to make sure that's...

You know what I mean ;-) There's a "look" to the 1950s-1990s British locos. Even the Class 66 has it, although the 70 and the EMUs no.... To be...

Wow, that's quite a bit of horsepower. I see 60,000lbf for traction, which is decent too, and that's what you need on a hill, not so much the...

I agree I like diesel locos, but the Class 86/87 were very powerful and accurate for the time period and "earlier" would be pretty early given...

That's the third time I've heard people use the word "masterpiece" this week regarding TSW.....

TVL would be nice. The 40 and 45 I think are "rail tours" so they don't really count for anything in my book since they're not "active" on the...

I dunno... the 86 looks more "British". =-) Like the rest of the locos up to that point (Class 47, Class 52, even class 66, etc) None of them...

Yeah I've played it on WCL. It's not a mod. It's a straight substitution layer. The TVL thing is the opposite layer. Instead of bringing the pacer...

Agreed. That's why I said you have to sell it... not just demand more free stuff. Not all ideas are bad. There is a huge difference between...

My suggestion would be that it's a PAID extension of the WCML to Birmingham making it one complete route (for those that want it) that goes from...

And it layers on several other routes already in the game. The Pacer is great =-)

This. It's a matter of "different strokes for different folks" I suppose. You can't run an HST without a long, straight track... but then again...

I just picked it up on sale. It's kinda nice.

Had to throw that vague "out" on the end I see. "Everything it could possibly offer".... what does that mean EXACTLY? "Everything" is pretty...

No, to be clear it's not the MAJORITY demanding longer routes. It's a loud minority on the forum demanding that (and paying less and more locos.)...

Imagine if we treated every "masterpiece" like that. "The Mona Lisa is great but... there needs to be like 3 of them to make a complete set...

No, they are not. We've been over this in the 6 or 7 threads that already exist about "we need longer routes" and the same debate that happens...

Which is near average for TSW to be fair. The stated goal has always been to give "quick" drives not "long" ones. That's what TSC is for.

It's about 50 miles.... that's about average for a TSW route. *shrugs* It's pretty much standard now that people complain everything is "too...

I sure as hell hope so. We have FAR too many "new" routes. You can play any of those. Leave us a FEW routes for old timers to enjoy =-) I like...

Sounds like a personal problem =-)

I'm not sure "many" have passed on the WCML. Outside of the forum, I see a LOT of support for WCML and quite a few newer players. I don't have...

Two be fair there's two routes they could flesh out as they are even using existing rolling stock (PFR and SOS) that have tumbleweeds blowing...

If JT can only do one route a year, that's fine as long as they keep them good.

Yeah, as it levels out that grade resistance goes away. 75 seems reasonable on the flat, on the straight. Maintaining speed is a lot easier than...

I think that might be accurate. I have a chart of approximate tonnage by grade and resistance goes up with speed, so at 60mph you end up with...

Yes, the starter pack does seem to be attracting new customers. It's near the top of the new games sales charts for the genre. The "hey it's a...

Yeah, this whole argument requires us to agree that the routes are "terrible" but I don't think they are. So it fails.

To be fair, they're almost the same loco. They look near identical; the 87 just had more power. Even the 90s don't seem all that different except...

The 86 is used on TSC as the star of the route. Didn't they already say it was the 86 in a press release anyway?

What's the "standard?" Everything released is called "not up to standard"...meaning maybe your "standard" is above what the game actually is? Not...

There used to be a saying in the game dev world (not sure if it's still true, but guessing it is) that projects have dimiinishing returns....

If you want them to take twice as along to fix bugs, then are you PROMISING you won't complain about waiting twice as long between releases? And...

Most of the work is from the routes, which would be released anyway. Rebranding is pretty easy by comparison.

Yeah you can use TSW4 as long as you want. Not sure if patches to the TSW 4 DLC will get the updates (I don't think so) so you'll have to download...

Enjoy man! I don't play it as much as I'd like because you get sucked into it and can spend hours at a session if you're not careful. The branch...

Yeah if you like late steam/early diesel (it's late 1950s/early 1960s timeframe) in a rural setting it's nice. There are "unlocks" to work towards...

You aren't wrong.

That's what EVERYONE telling bad jokes says ;-) "You just don't get it" lol Seriously... I didn't take it as you hated TSW... just thought it...