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Ah, I see. So you're just excited :) Well that's fine. I'm also really anxious to see more of the trains and this route. You can bet that I'll...

Yeah, that's basically what I was thinking. For the ICMm, the only next step to show before preview streams is to show it off in an active state...

¿What do you mean? Anything got announced somewhere?

America is pretty low on my list, but honestly, I'd love more Amtrak in the game. Specifically the HHP-8 and the Genesis locs.

Arriva is part of Blauwnet. Makes it extra stupid cause it seems almost like a coalition against the NS, which if I recall, it actually kinda is....

Frankly I absolutely hate the gate system. It's a bottleneck during peak hours and can absolutely cause you to miss your train if the masses...

Well, guard mode is so far still pretty much in its infancy, only being here since TSW5 in november, so only being on routes since. It's pretty...

Yeah, I heard that. So than, is the conductor not even on board the 425 to check tickets? Also, regarding the ICE. While I do agree with you, I...

While I'm all for it, I don't think that's likely at all, unfortunately. Not unless Dutch content *REALLY* pops off for TSW and even then...

Same. I own most content of the game, but most of it bought with about 40% off. Some exceptions on how much off I'll take depending on how much...

So, wondering. Anyone has any specific plans on what to do when the route releases? For me, as I feel is the case for most, I'm gonna get myself...

Nice :) It was mentioned before, but I wasn't sure what platform that was on. Not gonna read into this too much though, regarding proximity of...

I'd appreciate it, though I'd probably not make use of it myself, or at least it'd take a while to get used to it. For some reason, when I see...

I mean, sure. But I do hope for some realistic grime and weathering though. Thankfully, the preview pics we've got so far do look quite good in...

Oh wow. How can you even see them? I did notice that Matt said we're close to preview streams, even repeating "very" close. But I was under the...

Frankly, for as much as it's worth, I'm happy that Matt mentioned the feedback from the beta-team is so positive. On first glance, on paper, this...

I did notice that the backgrounds did seem to be around Groningen, but I'm personally more familiar with the south end of the route as I commute...

This route certainly won't be set before 2019 though. The NS SNG included in this route only came into service in 2019, and assuming there's 10/10...

Sure. But even then, that's a modified Stadler GTW if I recall. Which isn't in the game.

Less on the sarcasm please. Yes, I am making assumptions. I am fully aware of that. We do not have anything else to go by. And yes, I did see the...

I guess that makes sense. I'm not that knowledgeable on German systems overall though. I don't visit Germany often either. Do they not have...

True, and I do believe Diesel Legends didn't go so well with the fanbase, mostly because, to my understanding, there was a bit of a disconnect...

That's true. And a single 3 car ICM set on this route during peak hours is also pretty rare and short. But this is the first time I'm seeing them...

That said, that last pic does make me wondering about something I think I mentioned before. That pic does seem to confirm to me that they're...

Definitely! While I do prefer quality over rushed releases, I'm too excited and just can't wait :D I was worried that with many projects before...

Vintage rolling stock like that would be a lot of fun, sure. But I do think that, assuming (though no guarantees) there'll be at least 2 more...

I did, but if you look closely, there also does not seem to be a pantograph at all. It seems to be very early in development, so I'm not yet...

It is very clear that so far, they aren't *that* far yet, and there's a few minor details. I mean, for starters, they don't seem to have yet...

Well, we got some screenshots, including the ICM cab, a little bit of route in the background, and a blurry glimpse of the SNG, and I'm excited!...

Of course. There is no absolute guarantee there even will be new routes after this. Though, even if DTG themselves never touch anything Dutch ever...

Yeah, I guess I'm just getting a bit old than. My first train memories are the old ICM, VIRM, DDAR, Mat'64 and oldschool yellow SGM's. Never...

Yeah, if you think about it, this route actually does have some particularly dark history. Fascinating history to be sure. A shame only that it's...

They're nice :) Though, could you really consider those retro? They did run until 2008, so they're definitely not modern anymore. It feels wrong...

Honestly, while I prefer semi-modern trains of the era in-between 1995 til 2015, if we're going the retro way through a Diesel-Legends like DLC...

Sure, but this route uses the slightly older ATB EG instead of NG. For this I would rather recommend "Train Driver's POV Dutch Railways" youtube...

I'm quite they'll add De Vork, probably even as the main emplacement for the route. To be fair, they're going to have to make it anyway, so might...

It would definitely be. Though I don't see it happening that soon. The option for free-roam freight options is also one of the reasons though...

So, good news for those who were talking about freight options for this route. I was looking through some foto archives online and found this one...

I mean, while down the line I would love a retro route featuring the old ICM's, or have it be included as a retro rolling stock pack akin to the...

Sure, it should reflect both passenger and freight, but the problem here is though that IRL this track has maybe only a handful of small freight...

Why are you nervous about that? For now, no freight locs are in the works, and I don't see it made soon either. So it's probably going to be just...

Ah, I see. Thank you for pointing that out. I did not catch that and jumped to possible conclusions and worry too soon. Thank you :)

Absolutely amazing to see an update on the progress on the NS ICM's! :D Though I did immediately spot one small detail that has me slightly...

Well, they did say that it was really in the earliest of stages, so it was quite clear with the initial reveal that it would be the last in line...

Yes, so, if the speed drops to 100km/h, it would look mostly similar to what it looks like on German routes. First, you'll encounter the yellow...

So, seeing as how we're getting a Dutch route with Zwolle - Groningen. This thread may be of use to some people. Also, in hindsight, this thread...

I made a thread about this a while ago. You can find it in my signature. Though the site from which I used the pictures no longer exists, so I'm...

A bit busy, so I'll only respond to a few of your points. Firstly, I would warn you not to get your hopes up too much. Specifically when you say...

I'm not too worried about that for a few reasons. First, while it's likely that in a few years time, there'll be a few more Dutch routes out,...

DDZ is actually probably the most common intercity train on this route IRL, so in terms of future loco DLC, that one's probably the most likely....