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Agreed. Don't get me wrong. I'm hoping TSW4 will genuinely succeed and be that which TSW was always meant to be, eventually (even if I know better...

Also, to give you a better picture of what kind of person I am. I'm that annoying guy that will still go on strike with you even if I personally...

No that's fine. Responding this is way not offensive. You're not invalidating how other people feel right now, which other people on here have...

So, I do understand DTG, and I appreciate them for all their flaws. But as someone who is passionate about this game and wants to see it succeed....

Ok, so, firstly, I think I get most of what you mean there and I'm sympathetic to your argument, thank you for taking the time. First, let me...

I'm open to productive conversation, but much of the "critique" I'm seeing over here against this thread is basically people just saying "shut up,...

That's valid, and I'm sorry you feel the way that you do.

Exactly. Thank you for putting that into words. The reason for this thread and this poll are as follows; To vent anger and frustration to DTG's...

Ok, aside from the pretty immature way you started that. Please make an argument. What is it about the core game of TSW4 (not the routes or...

Except the point wasn't to have the "yes" win. It was to show the "yes" wasn't insubstantial, which, looking at the poll, they're not. Court...

Yeah, so I agree with that. Do you remember when TSW2 got announced? The team's attitude during it was basically: "While we think TSW2 is great...

This isn't just a "capitalism" issue though. There was capitalism back in 2009 too, yet the model I'm describing has worked perfectly well for TSC...

To anyone coming into this thread, I would kindly ask the following. You are free to disagree with the premise of this thread. You are also free...

Stop being dramatic. You just don't like the topic. Don't get why you're feeling the need to complain about it. It's not like it's affecting...

Ok, so again no one is asking they work for free. Just that not every core update gets a full new game release. We still pay gladly for content we...

K? Your point? You think we'll get our point across better by meekly bowing our heads in silence as nothing will change anyways? If that's your...

you're being hyperbolic and facetious I feel like. I'm not saying there's no improvements at all whatsoever, but enough to make it feel like an...

Suppose you haven't gotten the upgrade yet. It's past release date for TSW4 and the 1st of the yet unnamed roadmap content got announced. Can you...

No, apologies are in part also self reflection. There will be no improvement without reflecting on wrongs. And you can't communicate with your...

Not really. I get what you're saying, but this thread isn't really about having the freedom to buy TSW4 or not. It's about that you shouldn't have...

Exactly. I'm taking this point as awareness to the current model. People rightfully don't want a subscription model, and few people do. But if...

I get what you're saying, and I agree. But the point is, isn't what DTG is doing right now just kind of a compromise between a supscription model...

Why? You could just ignore them if you don't like them. In this case they actually have a good purpose too, as "yes" doesn't have to win. You can...

This exactly. No one is saying people should just get free stuff. But if you already own the game, you already own the game. Unless the "new game"...

Except it wasn't. I still have my copy I got in 2011 and came out in 2009 and I never once have had to buy the game again and I still do and it's...

Who says I'm not doing that? I mean, I'm actually not right now, specifically because my PC has some issues I need to resolve first, but that's...

Ok, well, if the way it's done works fine for you and you're happy with it, I'm happy for you. You're free to ignore the upset. Just understand...

I appreciate your response and I respect your answer. I agree, the problem is that they've broken the trust the community placed in them, and it's...

Oh yeah, I remember now. I do remember the DRA one. Funny cause it's now probably the most liked German route in the game. I do remember being a...

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate? I would actually argue that especially Rush Hour is how it's meant to work. I had...

Yes, I'm pretty sure it's them driving the wedge. They're the ones that decided to do this. If I stepped on your toes, physically speaking, is it...

I agree with most of what you're saying. To be clear, I am indeed not trying to put blame on any individual person, and I don't think for a second...

No, mainly I just want them to, in their own words, acknowledge what exactly it is that has struck a nerve with a large part of the community,...

Frankly, the routes are a genuine critique I have for TSW a lot of the times. There are a few that do it right, but I hate how most (passenger)...

Agreed. I mainly play TSC still because at least it has Dutch and Japanese content. If those got ported over to TSW, I would move over for those...

Well, that is kinda what I was referring to. JD is great during during preview streams because he asks the casual player's questions, and gives a...

I'm not too sure about that. In terms of how well the devs respond, support and custom content, agree 100% However, TSW, or at least its format it...

JD is great, I do agree, and I do hope to see him stay for a long time, but I do still miss Sam at the same time, and this was a moment we needed...

I would bet on it that's 100% because TSC is more flexible and actually encourages 3rd party content instead of stifling it as well as the logical...

Yeah. For me the thing about TSW is that it was exactly what I was looking for. A game where you are the driver and not the train. Where you can...

Yeah so, I this is a problematic idea for a few reasons, the entirely I shall not get into as that has a chance of turning quite political and off...

I can understand bugs. They happen. That's fine. But I also expect that especially if the bug is severe enough, it will be patched sooner or...

Yes, I would expect to be able to use one of my favorite American trains to work fine in timetables. Yes. Crazy of me, I know.

As someone who definitely falls into the "can't" category on that one. Thank you for putting that into words.

True enough. Personally, I can't quite get into SimRail I feel, even though I do have it, because I like the interface of TSW works better for me....

To be fair, I do think 10 years is a bit long, but at the minimum until there's significant upgrades to software capabilities and the game is...

Only games I know that act like that are season based sportsgames like FIFA, Madden, NFL, etc. They get away with this because at least every year...

No they haven't. I do have TS classic, and have enjoyed it for a long long time. I bought it once, and it's still supported. In fact, it suffers...

Well, the things I'm mostly interested in are things like ATB (as I have written a guide on in my tags below), which I believe you're familiar...