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Yeah, look at that shiney language... never mind the carriages :)

If in doubt refund and there is a lot of doubt.

Yeah, you have fallen into we will give you a discount if you buy our broken game now. I know times are hard, but...

Yeah, it is a free country till it's not. But there is no way someone can even try to defend wcml, ain't no way.

Yeah, but the problem is that you may have to wait till Easter for an effective discount, but you will probably have to wait till Easter for an...

DTG's bla bla bla bla bla. Basically, wait for the do do do and not the bla bla bla. Keep a hold of your money till they fix it.

Where are you going with your month? TSW4 with suspension, then it will come in a few months time!!! Have you met TSW5, now coming with suspension...

Yeah, I think we will get promises, which is fair enough, but we were promised suspension for TSW4 and......? So you will be basing your decision...

I think, believe it when you see it, not that I don't trust what DTG say. It's just I don't trust what DTG say.

It is all about spin and damage control at this point, rather than focusing on fixing the problem. DTG know they have no answers to this short...

It seems to go from bad to worse, must all those wonderful lighting effects taking up the memory?

Dare you mention suspension? I think you get suspended for mentioning suspension don't you? :)

Yeah and all of what you asking for will take time if DTG decide to address the problems, but it won't be fix before launch and I would bet good...

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It is always a better policy to hang on to your money and let DTG do the running around, because once you hand over the money...have you met my...

Yeah, it is always great to get on and complain about something going wrong, but it is equally important to be point out good things as well. I...

It is a bit yes and no. I agree with what you are say 100%, but I am no expert on graphical issues or techical problems, so I welcome players...

I don't think they thought it would have got as far as 26 pages, in a very short space of time I might add. But again controlling the narrative.

There was more than one reason the original thread was closed and I think it just as much about silencing complaints about wcml than anything...

Remember everyone to be respectful and don't say a bad word about the wcml line or this tread will suddenly need to end as well. One thing to...

Anywho...DTG are going to be coming back to us this week with an update? Who wants to take a guess what they come back with?

Ok, what is your view on the wcml review the other night? As some here do no believe you are non bias?

That frog is back again Rivet Rivet Rivet :) it is down to DTG as they claimed as theirs, down to DTG to sort.

You came to TSW4 last April...Mmmmmm I think that was about the time some of the problems with it got solved, so I would be in no big rush to pick...

Thanks, I must have a look for him. He has noticed the wcml mess, oh what mess lol

Anybody know a NON bias Ambassador who will say it as it is and NOT be singing DTG praises?

What's green, hops around and keeps going Rivet Rivet Rivet Rivet Rivet!!!!

Let me clear that up for you DTG.

And who is responsible?

No, it is not your responsiblity or job to track down who did what. DTG's name is on the front of it and it is down to them to quality control...

This Rivet thing is starting to become like Roswell. If your car misfires because there is a problem with the ECU made by Bosch or Denso, you...

Yeah, I fell for all the glitter and shiney stuff including a suspension system with TSW4 and what I got wasn't so shiney. Fool me once....!

DTG have claimed or led us to believe it is their work, they have taken ownership of the route and its problems. I know you think next week more...

Promise you everything and deliver you less, anything for a fast buck, but that only works some many times.

Like that, I have been buying TSW for years, but after TSW4 and what went on with that I swore I wouldn't buy another TSW. You certainly don't buy...

DTG...Hype...I don't know what you mean? DTG never do hype do they :)

But will thou?

That will hold DTG accountable, that will teach them NOT to do it again. They produce and launch an unfinished product and you still gonna buy it?...

Well if wcml was bad, then rest won't be good as the apple doesn't fall to far from the tree.

I think you're on to something there. :)

I think you need to look up the meaning of flawless, DTG certainly do :)

There is a lot of speculation flying around about did DTG or Rivet create wcml? EA done it, no it was Codematers? It makes absolutely zero...

Oh, is there a problem with a new TSW route, that never happens does it? Like there's more things wrong? :mad:

Another reason NOT to buy TSW5!!!

Matt and Alex are unable to come to the phone right now, but if you leave your name and number...:)

Welcome to controlling the narrative, DTG answer what questions suits their agenda.

Yeah, well when DTG are finished sticking their head in the sand we still be here lookin at em...waiting!!!

Delaying the product delays the flow of money, but DTG are happy enough to hand their customers an unfinished product.

Yeah, keeps crashing, I stop at the station, open the doors and save my progress. TSW 3 was more stable for me.

All about money and DTG don't mind making the player wait for fixes and some of the fixes won't even happen because they will be too busy to make...