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Sorry but now you are just on your soapbox inventing things to suit your agenda. Nobody has degenerated anybody passively or otherwise. What has...

This is really off topic about WCML. But I will answer it; you are over-reacting, this has nothing to do with unions more consumers rights. There...

Yes they likely have, because of the tireless efforts of us presenting a clear and reasoned argument in a friendly (hopefully) manner..

The truth is that people that reward failure are not going to get anything changed. So be it on their heads. Can you not see that you are doing...

Up to a point that is all very noble and all that, but also we should be encouraging other players to do what's best for us all, for the entire...

Oh dear someone go out of the wrong side of bed this morning! Have fun with your 710 timetable after dark.

It's also telling how nobody has come on here yet to defend DTG. That says a lot because you can't defend the undefendable.

Exactly, boycott rivet. Incidentally DTG should do the same because they are being dragged down by them too.

I live in London and I believe the only time it would be that dark would be during a power cut. London and it's environs have huge light pollution...

TBF Matt is an executive producer.

You are right, the Overground runs a train every 15 minutes on all it's lines. This timetable is a joke and it must be down to those devs at rivet.

This is the big downer for me. It's reduced my interest in the route so I will await to when the route itself is reduced in price in a sale...if...

I don't agree with that because you are rewarding DTG and showing trust by doing that. I've seen the DD stream with my own eyes and there is no...

It's words accompanied by smoke and mirrors, I'm going to hold back and await these patches to see what they really bring and what the community...

Exactly, I want to see this improvements in place and working before I hand over my cash. I just don't trust these merchants anymore.

Wow that carriage is so unrealistic it's painful. Looks like something from TANE 2012.

I would say the ambassadors are there to talk up the route and encourage sales as much as just to show it off.

In that case why bother to have ambassadors in the first place?

I can see your point, but going on past experience these folk tend to gloss over any significant problems in the past, and just give a general...

[Deleted; Inappropriate language - DTGHarry] I think the DTG guys were trying to draw our attention away from that shiny carriage by distracting us!

The ambassadors will probably do what they always do, just go through the stream not mentioning anything that is wrong. Why? Because they want to...

Yeah buy this shiny new dlc polished by our well trained ambassadors and we'll fix WCML later. No thanks, other way around please. Couldn't...

Have you picked up the excellent Oakville passenger timetable over at Train Sim community? Adds all sorts of goodies including US freight...

Both were deal breakers for me, specifically the Overground timetable being cut to the bones, but also the awful night lighting which in effect...

Perhaps it would be nice if from now on posts on here were actually about WCML? Keep on topic in other words.

Really? How about London after dark looking like the blitz period with total blackout, poor lighting in tunnels and at Euston, illuminated cars at...

Sounds like a wise decision. I too have been guilty of getting carried away on the wave of excitement that can exist at such times. Now I've...

Y'all have a nice day.

I'll drink to that! I think it will be hard for DTG to go back to the paid model again in all honesty. It should be extended if anything....

I bought TSW4 as a preorder deluxe edition despite having doubts that the ECML was starting and ending at the wrong places. After driving my...

Going back to the WCML, my personal aim is to watch a YouTuber I trust who has made videos in the past that aren't just all looking through rose...

This was the reason for the previous thread being locked: "Morning folks. I'm going to lock this thread as we've had numerous reports from...

Wow so it's ok for us critics of some DTG releases to be routinely labeled as "whiners" and "moaners" then? But you get all huffy when someone...

No problem, there are enough ambassadors talking up releases already. If I followed the majority of those YT streams I probably would have bought...

He comes across pretty fair and gives credit where it's due, but where some fanboys might be offended he's not afraid to give fair critique of a...

You want to try going off autostrada in Italy, we had a brand new hire motorhome had to go into the shop in Tuscany after having been pot holed...

Yeah strange isn't it? Last year the ECML was everywhere by now.

Yes "Train Sim Society" on YT is very good and tells it as it is. He's a young American guy but he's picked up pretty well on the WCML mess.

Give rivet a fair trial then kick them in the nuts.

This is awesome, great work and thanks. DTG give this guy a job and pay him top dollar!

Free core upgrade then read all the reviews and watch the forum for the inevitable players who say they wished they hadn't paid for it! I've got a...

Purposely didn't buy Glossop but yes I'm not a fan of single unit routes as long as there should be other trains on it, Suffragette is fine as...

I think your experience is partly explained by TSW US freight runs being pretty boring designs in all honesty, at least the run you referred to,...

Imagine if TSW and Run8 met and had a baby, and then the scenario builders in TSC came over and raised it - what a game that would be!

I do believe that because there is an argument that says the pc only train games have lots of US freight; TSC, Trainz, Run8 etc. But TSW has I...

In TSC there's a couple of really good scenarios with 47's pulling nuclear flasks to Sellafield, wonder if we'll get that?

That's really going to send a strong message to DTG to stop their short changing practices isn't it.

Reading between the lines I think DTG's abandonment of US freight has more to do with sales figures, I also believe that had this game been purely...

Good point Vern.