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I am very much on the fence now. Parts of the lineside look as bad as the plains of Alvechurch on the Cross City route, maybe they are going to be...

I do think the branches would add something, but even if DTG were building the route now I am not sure we would get any. The Greenford branch...

I think this would be an interesting route especially with a nice full length run. I think it would benefit if it came as you suggest with one of...

Well I am sure there was similar thread recently, I just thought it was the same one. It is a subject which comes up a lot anyway.

SOS popped its head up and said hello! I do agree though both NYT and SOS have very empty timetables compared to what they should be.

I think GWE still looks good today however I rarely play it as it never feels very realistic. It should really have had a class 165 instead of or...

I too would love to see more French routes, I do wonder why we haven't seen any since LGV.

Surely that comes down to semantics! I wondered why the short length to Alloa wasn't included so you could drive the service in its entirety, it...

Overall looking at the screen shots the route generally looks very good and the 158 and HST certainly do, although I still think the interior of...

NTP going to Liverpool would make the route feel more complete, I am sure a driver of a Newcastle to Liverpool service wouldn't just drive between...

I think people reveal a lot about themselves when they feel safe behind a keyboard. If all people can resort to is childish insults then it is...

I hope that isn't the case. It is pretty pointless to bring what should be a busy route out and then leave the timetable half finished. If they...

He did, I think it must have been on here but I can't remember where, 50 is approaching and the grey cells are taking over!

I am surprised you even use it as I haven't seen you write a positive thing about it! I know if TSW was causing me this much angst it would long...

I don't find it a boring route to drive personally plus I like the fact it is a decent length full route. I would like to see something to break...

Well they are building a complete new route with a new steam engine so surely they should have fixed the issues first, unless they plan to in the...

That would be an awesome network and would see a nice variety of trains, as you would have seen in the steam days. It gets boring knowing that the...

Two of the Just Trains developers have developed a freeware Preston to Blackpool route for TSC so personally I would think it is more likely their...

I don't think anyone would expect every landmark on a long route, although enough landmarks have been left out of 40 mile routes so not sure what...

I don't see much whinging. The class 700 is an integral part of the route in real life, some of the stations on BML don't have any trains stopping...

That doesn't seem a huge amount of services for a route covering three major east midland stations.

Yes I agree. Although even the Jubilee with some mark 1's on the stopping services as a "placeholder" whilst some DLC is developed would have been...

The new route is going to have services missing as well, or certainly will out of the box, unless the knock up something completely unrealistic,...

Yes I miss the freeroam scenarios we had in TSC. They were easy to set up yourself too. There are several routes, or parts of routes where you...

Exactly would people really prefer to see the HST and the SE diverted services which are very uncommon rather than a train which is a feature of...

I can handle bridges not being 100% accurate as long as they are a good representation but having a straight piece of track where a curve should...

The interior of the 158 does look a bit low quality I must admit and too bright and shiny. The idling sounds would be an annoyance to me. I will...

I can't understand why such fundamental railway sounds, like going over bridges and tunnel and bridge reverb are not present when they are in...

I think 80 to 100 miles is probably ideal for a longer route. I would be happy to see even longer personally, but we are a long way from that....

Okay thanks I will try it. I think so far I have saved when I am still in the cab from where I had been driving before switching ends.

Well I would expect DOO routes to work as intended. I don't play many modern routes in TSC. Most of the routes I play feature steam or diesel or...

Well on DOO routes you probably do have to, the only DOO trains I have driven are AP ones which do have the facility to close them yourselves....

Yes on DTG routes you don't have to close the doors yourself. It happens at the end of passenger loading. I meant advanced in terms of it being...

It sounds plausible and I would love to see it happen so you might be right. Certainly Euston to BNS/Wolverhampton would always be a favourite of...

I don't mind the timed stops, but surely they could code it so that when the bar has finished going round it tells the sim to close the doors and...

That would be a nice choice of route. I wouldn't be surprised if the Pendolino wasn't included as I can't see them making two new trains. I think...

MSTS from 2002 had it too.

Sorry 717, I get confused with the numbering of these modern trains! Yes it quite likely would be DLC. I just can't see DTG being that generous.

I find it is still ridiculous that you have to operate the doors yourself, particularly in older stock. It works in TSC, I cannot for the life of...

What would they base the timetable on though, if it is future dated? I think ECML South seems far more likely, I wouldn't guarantee getting a...

Both are very capable the IOW is a lovely route, routes like Cross City and Tharanter Rampe are both very good routes. I get the feeling with DTG...

I am not worried about a fully populated Crewe station or even yards jam packed full of wagons, although they would be nice. A realistic...

Yes it would be great to see Matrix trains getting involved in TSW. Some of his period 3 carriages and porthole stock would be great to see,...

Completely agree with this, I thought at the time something like the Fairford Branch would have been the logical choice to start with. Or...

It would be good to see the 4F layered into SOS to add more variety but you are still going to be missing the Crewe to Liverpool stoppers which...

Aren't those the annoyingly noisy ones though which seem often louder than the trains you were driving. There was a very useful mod to make them...

Okay so what thought is there for the poor passengers freezing their whatsits off on a cold and wet station with nothing but a rudimentary...

Fair point, I started this thread to gauge the strength of feeling. I would argue though that for some routes there possibly isn't a lot than can...

I am afraid fictional nonsense is most likely as it has been the case with other period DLCs. I think before DMU's the Millers Dale shuttle used...

That is what I think too. Especially as that route has been built as freeware in TSC by two of the developers at JT. It might make sense if it...