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That is fair enough of course but I don't think there is anything wrong in wanting a little more immersion and realism. If the new MML route...

Wow the hyperbole is strong in this thread!

Why do more historic routes suffer from a less strict approach to realism, where you would not get away with something similar on a modern set...

Well yes that is true of course. From first glance they won't be getting of mine for it, which is not something I thought I would be saying on...

They should consider what is more important then. An empty mainline station but a logical starting point, or having an illogical starting point...

The add-on itself would come with enough stock to make Derby look busy if they wanted. Personally I would rather have a deserted Derby and be able...

It makes no sense from a realism/playability point of view. The immersion would be driving from a large city station through a city landscape and...

Well I will certainly be buying the Acela for the Boston Sprinter route. It would have been nice to have had a bundle with the Acela and NEC route...

With Derby being a major rail centre I would imagine most freights would have stopped there, even if just for a change of crew or to fuel. It...

Just seen it, excellent idea, link below...

You are quite likely right but if you don't try then you definately don't gain anything.

I went for the Derby option. I would have loved it to go to Manchester but I think we will be lucky if it went to Derby so not going to push it :)

That is a very succinct list and covers everything from what I can see, certainly easier to read than my ramblings! Good idea to create it as a...

Ambergate Junction was where the line to Chinley met the MML between Derby and Sheffield. However it wasn't a major junction and most expresses...

I think at least with Chinley a lot more trains stopped there, I was hoping it would go to Manchester but thought that was unlikely and Chinley...

IIRC (I haven't got the route yet) but isn't the class 155 on BRO blue? If so then surely it is a possibility that they could include it in a...

Granted Derby in the 1960's would have had a lot of track work and various yards and the works of course. But as I said so has Crewe and they...

Yes of course St. Austell is good example, to be fair to Rivet, although I think it is a big disappointment that WCL ended there, there is a lot...

Yes I can see what made them stop there, however I can't believe someone didn't see the proposals and say but what about immersion, what about...

Yes and presumably with JT and ATS there will be more variety come. I hope the likes of Steam Sounds Supreme get involved with TSW one day.

That is true, sometimes I don't want an hours drive stopping at every station. I suppose that is the beauty of having different DLC as you have...

Exactly. Can you imagine the absolute meltdown if DTG had stated their attention to build a modern route with the start point a rural/semi-rural...

I hope they don't forget about SOS. That also needs a shunter and a local train and at least goes between to major stations. This route will be...

I think Cross City is one of the best routes despite some early issues not sure why it seems to be unpopular. The route and train are well...

Presumably they could do a separate timetable which uses suitable layers from other German routes? Personally I wouldn't want incorrectly depicted...

It is actually possible to not purchase a route due to doing due dilligence, then not be exposed to bugs and then see what new stuff is coming and...

It wouldn't have been used as a shunter per-se but would have carried out shunting in some circumstances, for example branch line pick up goods....

I wondered if a 156 wouldn't have been more suitable, plus they are my favourite Sprinter. However I do love class 158's too so happy with that.

Ah okay, I believe the class 222's are mostly used on the Sheffield services? Maybe one of those will come as DLC. Don't get me wrong it is nice...

It might be that JT have no intention and have never had any intention of making the MML for TSW, we don't know. Maybe they want to model other...

I didn't say they wouldn't be there! I was speculating on whether the passenger service would be represented, which should be a DMU in the time...

I love the choice of route, it would have been one of my top ten steam routes in a poll. I just don't understand the scope of the route. It is...

For me personally Sheffield is a logical end point, from an immersion point of view it is the beginning or end of a journey whereas Leicester and...

Of all the routes I have ever known on a train simulator, from a game play and simulation point of view Ambergate is the daftest start point I...

There was a branch line between Millers Dale and Buxton which had a passenger service between the two places, which should be included. However...

Can't wait to see the fruits of your labours.

Having just bought the Boston Sprinter route in the sale, I am very excited for the Acela and the new timetable and fixes to the signalling....

They didn't mention Just Trains that I heard. Maybe JT are working on a route somewhere completely different, although I assume part of the MML...

I was just hoping for a longer run.

Why not build Derby to Sheffield then like Just Trains did in the first iteration of MML, it just makes more sense to me at least. Both the UK...

This route will be the same as GWE as far as driving the HST is concerned although the scenery will be nicer. It feels far too short.

I don't know if the 4F would have every worked locals from Crewe to Liverpool, they certainly did work passenger trains in their lives. The Peak...

I wonder if SOS will be forgotten now they have this new route? It desperately needs some DLC.

Of all the content announced today, this is the one I am most excited for, coming from someone from the UK who loves historic UK content! The TSG...

It looks like I was wrong according to Railcar.co.uk as of January 1963 Buxton had the four class 111 power trailer sets, i.e. one a non powered...

Well maybe they could have looked at a different route until they can find time to build large rail centres. Derby is not really any larger than...

Well then what about the Buxton to Millers Dale local service or are they going to forget it even existed! They bend over backward on modern...

I suspect that is a class 101 so that is a good sign. The class 111's were mainly in the Eastern region and had more powerful Rolls Royce engines....

I can see why they started there, especially with Derby having so much railway but for immersions sake it just doesn't work! Half the expresses...

The scenery is lovely some of the finest in England. The major terminus at Ambergate junction it interesting too. For some trains you would have...