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I am sure I read something about a class 196 being referenced or referred to, which is the DMU replacing the class 170's on the Shrewsbury and...

They would only make a Voyager for a route where it could have a decent run. They aren't going to make one just for AI traffic. A am sure if a...

They did that with WCL which was the main reason I never bought it. I personally don't want to see unrealistic layers unless they can be turned...

They were rare, London Midland only had a small handful after the class 172's arrived. At one point class 150's were banned from the Lickey...

Yes that is true I suppose it will take time. I am sure a Voyager is bound to appear eventually, certainly one would be great layered into Cross...

So what about for those of us who might want to see older trains, have we to just forget diversity just have multiple units from the last thirty...

There won't be a depot sadly. Unfortunately as much I enjoy a lot of what DTG do and I am almost certainly going to purchase Cross City, you get...

Yes there is a saying in Birmingham. What the Lufwaffe started, Frank Price and the city council finished!

Well presumably if they released a class 50 or 55 it would come with the requisite suitable route, i.e. a 1980's GWML or 1970's ECML for example...

I was slightly paraphrasing other comments, Birmingham is a great city in most parts.

I looked at Ship Sim but wasn't convinced it would be very exciting. As much as I like a journey on a canal boat I definatley don't think it would...

There are no orchards in the "industrial wasteland" of North Worcestershire. Don't forget Birmingham is just factories and foundaries with tall...

Well yes absolutely room for both. I would too love to see the Cambrian it is one of my favourite stretches of line, the fictional Crabenmore...

Quite, it will be varied route, offering a good mixture of countryside, suburbs and city, frankly I can't see what there is not to like. From...

Oh yes please definately, chances of it happening - vanishingly small!

I guess it happens in many places, they do tend to be a big part of a persons identity so it can be quite insulting as they are often...

So you mainly want routes which are pretty?! Most of those routes would offer very little more of interest in terms of rail traffic than the...

Then people should research and discover facts. They don't even need to get off their rear ends and walk to a library anymore, it is in the same...

At least 20 years ago really. It has had much regeneration, starting with the Brindley Place development and the building of Symphony Hall back in...

Haha of course but Birmingham is more than just the sum of its parts. Also the route is as much outside of the Birmingham city council area as...

You aren't but those who don't like the choice seem blind to the fact that other people have suggested it or might dare have a differing opinion....

Where is this vast industrial wasteland you speak of?

I have friends who live near there, it is a nice part of Birmingham. I live around 25 minutes away and visit there regularly. I just get annoyed...

I don't know where all this Birmingham bashing comes from. Presumably by people who have A) never been or B) went 40 years ago when it was a bit...

There have been many complaints on here about the lack of recent UK content, I think there would have been a lot of moaning if DTG announced they...

It would be great to see it extended to Worcester or even better Hereford. You would get the contrast from the big city station to the much more...

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It was a blanket statement, "I can tell this is going to be a bad route (full stop)"!

Thanks for being the community spokesperson! If you bother to look a couple of posts above this thread you will see evidence of at least five...

No it has never been suggested, nasty DTG!! https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/birmingham-cross-city-line.57444/...

Well I suspect this is going to be a DTG route not a Rivet route as DTG have recently made it for TSC. I would be happy to be proved wrong however.

The depot is on the New Street to Wolverhampton line at Soho. It would be nice if it was included but being DTG they don't often add many...

What about a class 126 in the Sc79xxx series pre 1972? That would cause a storm of resentment that is for sure!

If everything from the previous route is there in the revamped version you should be okay although if track layouts have changed then it may cause...

The first TSC Pendolino came in LMS livery and I think maybe a couple of other fantasy ones. It didn't come with a route. I think WCMLN was the...

From my regular experiences commuting with West Midland Railways that could apply to the complete to the complete DLC! My experience is the Snow...

I would curb your expectations unfortunately. I would love to be proved wrong but I think it is unlikely a network of lines will emerge, DTG...

Cross City has been talked about before so I wouldn't say it wasn't on their radar. It has recently been released for TSC so they have a lot of...

Yes I agree that UK content, well all content really has slowed down. Maybe it will pick up now TSW3 is released. Yes Spirit of Steam of course...

True but are DTG going to put time and effort into making a unit which runs for about ten minutes on the route?

I doubt there will be any extra trains apart from maybe a class 66 and some freight wagon. They aren't going to make a class 390 just to sit...

Longbridge is a shadow of its former self, most of it is an industrial/retail park now. I don't know if MG even assembly kits on site now or if...

In the model railway scene youngsters seem to often be seen operating steam and BR period layouts so I don't know why it doesnt seem to carry over...

The class 101 would be fun to drive on the Cross City especially keeping up with the schedules, shame there isn't a class 116 available. Taking...

Yes I fear the days halcyon days where we got two BR blue DLC's in a row have long gone. I also notice that those moaning and gnashing their teeth...

True, we do also have the ex Chiltern and Overground 172's which have the same front as the class 170's. They turn up regularly so both could...

It would appear pretty conclusive. Although of course there might be more to it than the leaked achievements suggest, or less even!

I agree I would love to see it extended to Worcester, or even Hereford as many trains from New Street terminate there. There are new diesel trains...

Utter rubbish! Birmingham has been rejuvenated in recent years and is still being so. It has a good mixutre of old and new buildings, they are...

It is only around 14 miles from Wolverhampton to Birmingham.