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Peterborough does have the Emt class 158 and the Thameslink class 700. I can see your point with Doncaster though but that could be partially...

As great as it would've been to have York included with Ecml, I'm kinda glad it isn't for 1 specific reason: Ai layers As of yet we have no Dmu's...

Isn't Cathcart Circle set in 2014? If so then it would be unrealistic to have the 385 layer onto anything at Glasgow Central as they didn't even...

Add some Coffee and we could get a new route every single day!

Would you consider doing something from the Network South East era? I'll admit I'm more of a modern day fan myself but I just love the Nse colour...

For the Ecml I think the New Measurement Train HST would be a much better option instead of another class 66, fully agree with your other...

Wait, so you mean to tell us that they (Dtg) made 3 brand new routes (each with a new train) + 2 loco addons, scenario planner 2.0, livery...

I was just about to suggest the New Measurement Train HST lol. But yeah that would be a good idea for a gameplay pack.

Crosscountry is on that list too but Dtg did (more recently) confirm that they do not have a licence agreement with them. Maybe it's just a list...

Hull Trains could be a problem because it seems that First are being very tricky with there license.

Rivet are making a gameplay expansion pack which will be releasing within the next 3 months but we don't know what it is yet.

Emergency situations such as an OHLE failure or small depot moves.

The 800 is a bi-mode unit that can operate on both diesel and electric power, the 801 is almost purely electric.

Speculation on my part here, I'm guessing the new loco from the new (unnamed) third party is the class 104 for PFR.

Deluxe edition for me, really want Scotsman.

It's been answered by Dtg Matt in another thread somewhere that they're preference was to do a 800 but Lner would only provide them with an 801 to...

Flying Scotsman coming with Mk2's is actually very realistic for the modern day railtour setting that they're going for. As for all the...

Almost electric only, the 801's do have one diesel engine on board but is only really used in emergency situations such as an ohle failure.

I'm happy we have Metrolink now too, just need Coaster now and The Pacific Surfliner route becomes a real possibility.

Unfortunately the Gwr license expired and Dtg have as yet been unable to renew it, there still allowed to sell Gwe but they can't make/sell any...

I never said anything about name calling or bullying though, I was referring to those who (from where I'm standing at least) seem to just want to...

Compering Tsw with abusive relationships is anything but civil.

Think what you like, I ain't tarring anyone, but there is a distinct difference between constructive criticism and whinging. Good day sir.

I have a feeling this thread is gonna get locked soon, and with 'the let's bash dtg brigade' now making completely inappropriate comparisons...

Sad but true.

Very well said, compering Tsw to an abusive relationship is both disgusting and insulting to those that have actually been in an abusive...

That's only if you plan to buy it separately, if you buy it as part of the deluxe edition you will get it day one.

I completely agree, the toxicity on this forum is so unbelievably high and while Tsw isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, it certainly...

Just to be clear, we are not apologists, we just actually enjoy playing Tsw.

Northern 323's operate services from Manchester to Liverpool and Crewe (there may be a few other locations but I'm not sure). The new trains on...

Well, you're the one who said we were whale's.

Same here

Dude please chill, your starting to sound like a Humpback.

You know what, I fully agree with you.

Class 801 and then Flying Scotsman.

Will be making my pre-order in a few days when I have more money, really looking forward to this especially the Flying Scotsman.

Or maybe the total dev time meant that it wasn't going to make it out before Tsw4's launch and therefore makes more sence for it to be a Tsw4...

They confirmed on the stream that there would be freight services (layers presumably) and there will be a layer for the 158.

Looks great, good job guys

YES, YES, YES!!!! Finally a class 800/801!

I'm guessing you've never travelled through area's such as Romford, Chelmsford etc then? I have travelled through those area's on the Geml and I...

If anything I'd say that at the moment the most we could expect from the Geml in Tsw is Liverpool Street - Colchester.

More then twice the length alone makes it significantly more complex/time consuming, then you have to factor in all the heavily built up area's...

Still far more complex overall.

It wouldn't be the first time we've had several routes in short succession that are from roughly the same region, all the uk routes in Southeast...

More likely he's just on holiday somewhere quiet and secluded, not a Tsw leak.

For the next freight route in Tsw, my money is on it being Tehachapi Pass.

Due to there length and complexity, I find it very unlikely that either Marias Pass or Donna Pass will come to Tsw any time soon.

Dovetail Direct stream at 2pm bst, there gonna be announcing some cool new stuff it seems.

Most likely, only 1 day to go until we find out for sure.