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Personally (although my opinion is invalid since I’m not in the position of a gen 8 user) I think that a 1200 playable service timetable is ‘better’.

Of course, but I was talking in relative terms, mainly for TSW and the way it’s currently developed.

Yeah I suddenly realised I had pointlessly been going back and forth with them for around 4 hours, at that point I was like wooooow.

This is why this individual is on my ignore list, clearly here only to argue.

Or, maybe I’ll just come here and make pointless arguments about why DTG are responsible for insufficient hardware. In any case, you enjoy not...

Yes boundaries and technical limitations will move, as is life.

Very Cool.

But the cost for PS5 users is more, That cost just doesn’t go to DTG. Whats more likely (and inevitable) is that DTG will simply stop selling DLC...

How does limiting the PS5 build increase the performance of the PS4 build? That’s what I’m curious to know.

I couldn’t care less… Never said I did, you’re the one who has the issue.

So if you don’t have the knowledge, don’t involve yourself in the issue? A lot of that going about round here…

You understand that ram is not a resource that degrades over time right? That is the all of the issue.

The irony of which goes back to your original complaint, before you back flipped your way to this point, is that even if Thameslink did exist...

Thameslink is not in the Game, on any platform.

If you haven’t confused yourself, you’ve certainly confused me. What is it exactly you were expecting from this route, based on a current era...

Again, that’s not DTG’s fault and has absolutely nothing to do with platform limitations. In any case if that’s what you’re after I’d recommend...

30 total stations across 50 miles, along with substantial landmark assets and more than a couple of large stations, you can easily see why this...

No one is getting Thameslink or any real freight at all though, again this just comes down the route itself, not platform restrictions. If you...

More than likely the case, but then again considering that PS4/X1 bring a substantial income to TSW, I’m guessing that quickly becomes a non issue...

NRD is running several types of trains, where as BML will only run 2 trains for the 1200 service bulk, with another 5 running a total of 200...

On BML you have that too, the 377 is the commuter and the 387 is the express train.

Because people building lower end PC’s are putting more than 8gb of ram inside them, if they don’t, they’re more than likely going to get out of...

To be fair, this very argument could be made on the other hand, you have to pay to increase your hardware power, £250-£500 to get 200 services,...

Yeah I get the traffic thing, again in the grand scheme of things, you’ll see the 66 only for a couple of select hours of the day, the 166 will...

I mean your issue sounds like you just don’t like the route as opposed to the layer limitations, even with active layers there’s only 2 freight...

That’s exactly my point, the actual experience of the BML is the electrostars, it’s not like the 166’s run the length of the route, they run a...

Well good luck with that, because you’ll only get no answer, or the same answer as you’ve already been given.

I didn’t say I was happy? I certainly am not under the impression that DTG & Sony’s efforts are made up from the number of threads on their...

“A lot of them” is probably an over reaction, in the end TSW is the only train simulator on console barring a couple of off brand releases, DTG...

My thinking is that the reason we haven’t seen DLC for more intensive routes is down to this issue, TSG already hinted at this being a problem...

The raw issue is that the PS4 & X1 have virtually no usable ram, it’s less than 8gb which is pitiful, where as the PS5/XSX have 16gb ram, it’s not...

Yeah the achievement is linked to the train, you could put the 166 on LGV Med and get the trophy that way, or more realistically do so on the BML.

Why make another thread when there is already a well documented one that already exists? They are aware of the issue, they are working on a fix,...

In all seriousness though do you really expect them to essentially make a whole new train at this point, and then create a timetable for it? If a...

The scoring in this game is broken and ultimately pointless anyway so I wouldn’t pay much attention to it. Personally I play British routes with...

The only reason they’re still supported is because a good chunk are still on last gen, soon enough the migration will happen, especially with...

Price increase or not, RH has still worked out at £11.66 per route. I get that it's disappointing, I was in the exact same boat with HMA, but...

I mean yeah but I did so because I knew that the end was nigh for my PS4 and X1, like I said it isn't great, but it isnt DTG's fault, Matt will...

Well it's not DTG's fault the consoles have reached the limits of their power, i'm in no way saying that it isn't a disappointment however surely...

Everything you’re paying for is the same as everyone else so you’re not losing anything, you still get the new stuff, it's the unpaid (free)...

from the looks of it, last gen won’t get the 166, 375, 465, HST & 66, Only the units that come with the route.

Can’t wait for this loco, this, the 147 and the 101 were the big German ones I hoped to see in TSW and we finally almost have 2 of them....

Good lord, this is a forum for train simulation, let’s all relax.

I mean the literal official discussion thread for the actual route would completely disagree with that.

Hornets’ point is that there is already an active discussion going on in the actual thread for the DLC, and it’s basically the same conversation...

The same way that almost every other route in the game omits services and trains, we can. It shouldn’t be new to anyone that a DLC is arriving...

Well considering that the 2 are completely different in every single way barring the fact that they’re trains, I doubt that.

Who said these would be included? Rivet Games are hardly the team that would be taking on a project as big as creating a route with a branch,...

I don’t think it would struggle to compete with BML to be honest, there is a big chunk of community waiting for some pre 2000’s British Diesel...

HRR is a case of I could take it or leave it, the route is nice enough and it is quite busy but it’s really too short, whilst length isn’t...