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I'd wager they're waiting on the response by the public to see if it's worth investing more into a whole route. SODOR would have to be several...

It's off topic, but now I'm wondering what we could do to help the museums and heritage railways with the forum. Group outings? Fundraisers?...

There is a bundle with WSR....

The "only product coming out? C'mon.... we just got word Cardiff and the Dutch route are coming out soon too. Saying it'll be "all about Thomas"...

a) No, I didn't misunderstand. A game that's 50% off is half the cost... ie "half a new game." b) Your sense of value is your OWN perspective,...

You can get half of a game that came out in 2018. That's not really selling your case there. That's still a bargain. All you managed to say was...

Diesel Legends of the Great Western is about the same price for 3 locos (featured in other routes), 2 coaches and I think 5 scenarios. So......

Don't get the inside joke, but it could be amusing to find fun things to do in Free Roam. I expect more than one person to start producing their...

Fair point, but that would also cost a lot more adding a whole new route to it. People are already blowing their tops over the reasonable price it is.

That's because it's exactly the same thing. You are freaking out about something that doesn't affect you. It's a single player game.

It was just redone. It's well worth it's cost. I'd put it up against any newer route.

So you don't like children because they want children things? Or is your hate against marketers for marketing well?

The price is very low. $24.99 for 5 locos and a bunch of scenarios is about on par, and for new players (the intended market) you get WSR, TSW 5...

Hmmm $24.99 for 5 locos and scenarios. Sounds about right for that cost. Plus you get TSW 5 AND WSR AND Thomas for $39.99. Well WSR is currently...

Looks decent. It doesn't show the "friends" but, but it's just a first trailer and they mentioned more in the other release. Compares favorably...

Not a huge steam person, but I may pick it up for that old diesel. If the Yukon map is anything like the Yukon railway setting that diesel...

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It leaves them looking for someone who wants to make that content. That's frankly not DTG's fault. It's a lack of someone in North America...

I think that's what they said yes. And there's a LOT more third party content, much which of it not made anymore that would be unusable. TSC has...

I find if that happens, it's often I haven't set the brakes up correctly in that little computer panel above the windscreen. The cut-out/cut-in is...

The whole intent is to get people who like trains to pass that love onto their kids (and grandkids.) That's why I thought the 74% of parents...

Sure, move it wherever.

Let's just say it's not "user friendly."

I love how "justify blah blah blah" is how you choose to describe "explain facts." It's not like inflation is some conspiracy people are coming...

But you can get TSW 5 with 3 routes cheap too.... wait until you want DLC for that game....

If that's fun for you then that's awesome. I was just commenting on the "grindy" part to it as people have noted above. 1,000 miles is...

"Time sinks" seems to be a common thing now in games. Rather than "how can we encourage people to have fun" (since they can't measure that) to get...

Compared to most other games, they act about like those NPCs. Not amazing, but not the disaster being descibed in hyperbole either. They're...

That's a matter for debate among lawyers.

But it's modeled... if you run down the track. It's a LOOOONG ways. And yeah I thought there was a ferry there still. As well as nuclear fuel...

But you should still be able to reach it in free roam even if there's no scheduled service.

Is there a way to use the miles of track down to Heysham and the port beyond Morecambe? I get red signals on one leg and a "leaving the game area"...

You want it to be exactly the same and the same cost when costs to make the routes have doubled? Well I want the same or better work from you but...

Preston to Stafford is shorter than WCMLOS by about 20 miles. But if they did the Stoke on Trent Loop.... it'd be pretty close to the same....

I think "Mitten" is my favorite name for a TSW route now. It sounds like taking your adorable kitten along while you drive. "Railway Adventures...

It's a valid point. If collecting whatever makes someone feel good that's fine. I just think that the challenges that "do something" bring more...

I agree Crosstie except the last bit. Since we are already getting lower quality to offset having to raise prices as much as they otherwise would,...

XP doesn't do anything in the game though.

Unless you have a full time job ;-) Seriously though, that's a big commitment. For people who aren't doing HST all the time, that's a lot of...

A good way of looking at it. What else could you buy with that money instead? I can spend X hours on a DLC.... or.... go to the movies? Go out to...

It substitutes for the other locos and adds 3 scenarios.

Well, the cost of everything has gone up about double in the last 10 years, so why would these be any less? Seriously, when I go to the store I...

I can only speak to what I've played, but I find Derail Valley to have what I THINK is the most "accurate" steam physics/controls. Not the most...

I admittedly haven't played either SCS much lately. I keep meaning to go back since there's so much new content, but there's only so much time =-)...

Keep fighting the past battles with nothing new to add. This thread has entirely derailed from discussion of a new route which was what made it...

I know you play Derail Valley Vern, what other modern games do you guys regularly boot up?

Third parties are free to do so. I've encouraged that in every thread on it. And yes the Expert 101 is a perfect example I've made before on...

There are several threads already. It's been discussed over and over, and I'm not disagreeing there are SOME steam fans out there obviously. It's...

TSC is not TSW. The TSW crowd is focused on newer trains, probably because the player base is younger and on consoles. Do we REALLY need to...