2025 Na Content Drought.....

Washington - Richmond will never happen because distance are too much for DTG standards.
Philadelphia = Septa. So skip.
Which Amtrak diesels runs through Baltimore?
By New Haven you means Valley Flyer, Hartford Line and Vermonter? So New Haven is the most realistic chance of getting P42DC. But this will require CT Rail license, right? Let's be honest, if DTG ever made New Haven it would be NY - New Haven, so... chances still around 0%.

 

Why there has to be the full route. They could drive till a red signal, where the service ends for you. The same what we have with the freight trains at Rockwood stoppings at SPG. So why not let the Amtrak service ending at a red signal. And with that method we could add Capital Limited to SPG too.

 

I agree- but I think there might be economic merit in doing an Amtrak loco DLC, that slots onto existing US routes. A Genesis with Superliner consist could run - just a few times, admittedly - on several routes. Are the limited services any different from, say Flying Scotsman?

 

114 miles- longish but not out of bounds

 

Post removed cause I'm mentality ill.

 

I believe the New Haven - Springfield line could be a good choice, with both passenger and freight services being present, we also could finally get the P42DC
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/new-haven–springfield-line.86516/

 

It's hard to understand why, with the apparently good relationship DTG has with Amtrak, that all we have are two electric locos from the NEC.
A Genesis trainset, as you suggest, would surely be a solid seller especially with an accompanying scenario pack using existing routes.

 

Especially since DTG apparently also have a good relationship with Siemens

 

can you imagine the CTA diamond in TSW?

 

Thinking of the criticism PFR got for ending at minor stations, I suspect a route ending at a signal in the middle of nowhere would get slashed. I don’t think such a route would fly today.

As I recall Matt’s answers over the years, it was always a combination of:

• The lacklustre possibilities for gameplay in timetables on most routes.
• The fact that you need to own multiple routes to get a small amount of services.
• The variety of coaches needed to be modelled.

Mind you, maybe this thinking is changing? I think the Flixtrain DLC comes with six services after all.

I’d wager a P42 loco DLC could be attractive in a similar way to the original German Br 101. While she had a decent number of services on HRR, those were always a bit of an ill fit for a long distance loco and her layering onto other routes became a much stronger argument for buying her than the native HRR timetable implementation. I reckon a P42 loco DLC would be desirable in a similar way for layering onto most routes if done correctly.

 

CTA diamond?

 

For me this is looks like the main factor right after the lack of a home route. If they will made Superliners, then people will come with the rightful question: where is Viewliners? And vice versa.

 

It’s what they called on youtube. The large intersection for the L.
I’m longing for Metra as its the first train I ever rode.

 

No licence for Metra.

 

I would buy it. It would be interesting having some passenger services on the freight routes.

 

Absolutely. I had a ton of fun running a custom Amtrak consist over HSC (with an F40 standing in as the lead).

 

Yeah, AMTRAK runs on most of the NA routes. It might not be much for one route, but they add up when you make them all have layers.
I couldn't tell you what exact locos for what exact years, but AMTRAK in general wouldn't be out of place anywhere, even on Oakville in Canada since the train from Niagara Falls goes up through there to Toronto.

 

GE Genesis would work darn near anywhere aside from the NEC main line from the 90s to the present day, which covers all the US routes except Clinchfield. The Charger is too new (and breaks down too much); but an alternative would be the FP40 reskinned, which actually could run on Clinchfield.

 

Not trying to undercut DTG, but I say it all the time. Crowdsourcing a new sim to our preferences wouldn’t be a bad idea. *wink*

At this point, I’m wondering if the whole P42DC/ SC44 thing is a license issue. There’s no way DTG is willingly missing out on all this money. Those two locomotives would be one of their best sellers. (Even if the majority of players are European.)

 

Why would it be a license thing? DTG have the Amtrak license, and locomotive designs are generally not IP (in the case of the Vectron, it is the name and the "grill" which are Siemens trademarks; DB (not Adtranz/Bombardier) has trademarked the look of the ICE 3, but these are unusual cases. Generally you can't trademark a box)

 

So could the P42DC do basically everything on all the routes, or would they need multiple Genesis models?
I agree that a lot of people would pick a loco add on for so many routes, even if just to run them a few times for giggles but knowing DTG, they'd want it for a specific route set up just for it to premiere on.
Perhaps suggestions for a doable urban corridor that wouldn't have licensing restrictions and could have other traffic on it to fill it out?
The Acela corridor seems fraught with licensing issues?
Springfield to Albany might be a bit far (it's 80-90 miles maybe?)
Worcester to Springfield is only about 50 miles and connects to the recent MBTA line which connects at Boston to the Providence route.
Lots of route hopping.
Also local rail including some freight. (That whole run from Boston to Albany is nice in TSC routes)

 

Just wishful thinking but thanks for letting me know.

 

I know this is all speculation, but could you think of a better scenario for why they haven’t released one of these VERY highly requested locomotives yet? Same for modern BR freight locomotives, other than the Class 66.

 

Gameplay. Yes, that loco addon would have a compelling amount of gameplay for most people participating in this thread who own every single US freight route, but that is not representative of the player base as a whole.

You're just not going to be able to sell this to a new player who only has Cajon Pass from the TSW5 bundle.

Plus, to get an acceptable amount of gameplay (and again, that's just for those hardcore US freight players who have every route), you're going to have to edit a whole bunch of timetables, rather than just one or two. Not prohibitive, of course, but still an additional complication.

In my opinion, there needs to a "home route" for an Amtrak diesel to which it can add a good number (even just 10 or 15) of services, and which appeals to more people than just the hardcore freight crowd. That would give DTG a reasonably big group of people who they can sell that loco addon to.