Having availed myself of the AP 86 EP, one thing I did last year was substitute it for the default 86 in some scenarios, one being the WCML North's A Chill Wind. In this scenario, you have to stop at a red signal in a loop at Quintinshill to allow an HST to pass, then try to accelerate up an incline to regain line speed. Of course, the AP 86 EP comes with added 'physics', including wheelslip dependent on conditions, and it is a real struggle to get the AP 86 on the go again after that stop - I was battling away with speeds of 10-20 mph for a good few miles before I managed to start to build up speed. (If you come to a stop, then that's more or less it!) Reverting to the original scenario, wondering if there was a similar issue, I discovered that there was absolutely no such issue with the default 86, as it was able to storm up the incline without any bother whatsoever! Anyway, if you fancy a challenge try the scenario with the AP 86!
That sounds like great fun. Must give it a go later. I would imagine the AP version is possibly closer to reality than the default one.
Interesting to note the default scenario has two class 86 in multiple After you swapped to the AP version you only have the front loco leading
Just gave it a try and bingo !!! Arrived at Lockerbie early and with no wheelslip. I now class myself as a Master of the 86 LOL Just a thought, (and please excuse me if you are already aware of this) but when driving the AP version of the 86 you need to hold down the "U" key (orNumber Pad +button) when tapping up, or else it easily slips into constant run up, which usually results in Wheelspin / Motor Overload. I had owned the 86 pack for about 3 months before I found out myself. I believe it was a RTFM issue (Read The Flaming Manual) LOL
Well spotted sir, 10/10 for observation, I never noticed that the second loco is a dead / no pantograph one. Just for fun I am now going to try again with just 1 x 86, bet I don't get 10, 10, 10, 10 from the judges.
I think I just have, but by golly you have to gentle with the power. My first 2 attempts resulted in wheelspin before I had left the Kingmoor Yard
Ah, thanks for pointing that out! I was putting myself at a disadvantage indeed. Must try again with a powered one. I don’t suppose there’s anything I need to do to set up the second for multiple working? Will TS have it mirror the the settings of the first automatically?
Cheers. In my defence, I think it was one of my first swaps as a newbie to TS - maybe I didn't realise the second could give power too.....
What a time I had trying to locate the AP Class 86s in TS Tools - I assumed they were in the Assets>AP folder, but no luck, but found them in the RSC folder. Were they always there?! I finally managed to locate and swap the dead 86 - interestingly the labelling for the AP 86s seems to have changed somehow (see arrow). With a second powered loco, the ascent from Quintinshill was a lot easier, though still not the Usain Bolt dash from the default 86s! Will have to rerun the default one again, but here's the HST that didn't appear in it.
Ok - there are two types that AP Sell - Rolling Stock Packs and Enhancement Packs. A Rolling Stock Pack gives you everything you need without having to own any other version Like their Class 50 or 411 - install and it is ready to go An Enhancement Pack will Enhance something you own so the files for those trains are always in the main folder for that train Like the Class 43 Enhancement Packs that add new features to the Kuju HST
One additional detail, not sure whether it affects the AP 86 but grip level of a loco is calculated from the weight of the consist when loading in. Hence, on some US locos you can't even use Notch 1 after uncoupling without wheelslip. I also ran a fairly obscene consist with a Class 47 where I had to reload because it was slipping at 8%. Yup, 8%. With sand. A standard workaround by scenario authors, also adding a bit of realism and fun, has always been to start the loco in a resting place, attach, then run. I'm really not sure why a loco doesn't slip with 200 Amps worth of effort but slips with 50 Amps, it makes no physical sense whatsoever as the grip / slip is defined by the pressure Force and the grip coefficient, it's either enough for the horizontal (rotational) force or it isn't, the consist behind has absolutely no effect on grip, nada. But the consist resists, it's heavy to pull! No matter, the loco either grips under the Newtons/Amps and rail conditions or it doesn't. Of course in reality people don't use the force but acceleration, so a heavier consist means more Amps and sure, you can slip under red Amps. Also, our trams have literal zero grip in Autumn.
