Route Airedale & Wharfedale Network: Leeds & Bradford - Skipton & Ilkley - Feedback Thread

As mentioned in another thread
PS5 airedale and wharfedale, serious lack of passengers using the trains. Running 2V10 currently and the trains empty but other passing services have passengers

 

wouldnt let me end a 333 service from leeds to skipton, cant remember headcode. sat at skipton for 10 minutes and nthn happened

 

xbox series x- 333, as soon as i stop and put the reverser into neutral, this horrible persistent beeping sound blasts around the cab until the doors are shut. this didn’t happen in the preview, and i can’t think of any reason why it’s happening now

 

series s - guard doesnt buzz on the class 331 (yes I have it on realistic)

 

the 333 guard is also way too slow to open and close the doors, i’ve fallen several minutes behind schedule because of it

 

XSX - Class 331

Just took the 331 for a short drive, drives well. My only problem yet is the Running sounds of the train could have been better, it sounds like that default running sound I’ve heard on other trains through out the game.

wether that is something that can be changed in the future, I’d hope so!

 

Second this. Very quiet for me & even at crossover points you dont really hear the rails. All just too quiet on the sound front

 

last i heard there’s some 331 sound improvements coming in the tuesday patch so let’s hope it covers most of the issues already raised

 

I can hear the suspension and stuff over points but the actual sound of the bogies on the rails, it’s just dull, I can’t explain it. When you look at like the 158 or the midway valley 375, they have sound to the bogies as the train changes in speed but on the 331, it’s just that certain metal defualt sound.

 

There isn't a feedback thread for the deluxe locos DTG Alex

 

On the LNER 801 and Northern Class 333. The guard won't signal back with the 2 signals. This works fine on the class 333. Just for info, my setting for AI guard is realistic

 

Xbox PC:
Bad live weather transitions (it was going between foggy and cloudy)
TSR in tunnel before Shipley clipping through walls
GSMR went blank halfway through (this has been present on lots of other dlc)
Cars going through level crossing between Steeton & Silsden and Cononly
Noticeable missing scenery between Saltaire and Bingley going over a bridge

 

Not a great first experience,
live weather adament it was foggy (it wasn't in reality) despite restarting it a a number of times.
2D77 guard control panel open, local door would not close, had to do it myself (on AI guard 'realistic' and 'always' settings)
Xbox PC

 

also 331 and 333 AI conductor is a known issue under review

 

Door bug

 

Ran a service from Ilkley to Leeds. The TSRs are now variable in speed but unfortunately they seem to always occur in the same place. The AI conductor on the 331 seemed to have problems locking the doors at Ilkley and Leeds. The night lighting doesn't seem too bad, although I think some of the buildings could be made a bit brighter. I've taken a couple of screenshots for those who were asking about it (with enhanced lighting enabled.)

 

Same experience here - it didn’t happen with my first station call but has happened at every subsequent station so far.
Service 2D28 also Xbox Series X

 

Same problem for me on PC, AI Conductor is broken. And when I disable AI Conductor I still Cannot open and close doors with 331 and 333, I don't know why.

 

Thanks Alex. I'm a long time lurker on these forums but rarely post. I see the criticism about quality checks before release and accept that this is a game at the end of the day, so have forgiven a long list of buggy releases over time.
However, I, like many others, have spent rather a lot of ££ over the years.These buggy releases are now starting to irritate me.
I can have early access BUT that means I have to put up with a load of silly bugs. My trust in your teams and product is starting to be eroded.

 

Nice to see working neutral sections but from what I’ve seen from the streams so far there appears to be no yellow track mounted neutral section magnets. (Answered below - thanks AndyL).

 

Class 331 playing “This is xxxxx” announcements around 600 yards before arriving at the station when it should be “We are now approaching xxxx”
Xbox

 

The large yellow magnets like those used for AWS don't seem to be used there days for APC at neutral sections on the real railway. Instead they use smaller ones that aren't brightly coloured. Take a slow trundle past a neutral section on one of the JT routes and you'll see something outside the running rail in the appropriate places.

 

Class 331

Shiply - Opens 5 coaches instead of 4 on PC when in double formation on Platform 2
If you key out of one set of doors in guard mode and move to another pannel to dispatch, the origional door you were at is stuck open after pressing doors closed button (also affects GWR 802 on Devon). This can mean the entire train worth of doors (where a door pannel is located) is stuck open

Class 333

Internal A/C sounds disappear when take power in guard mode

Apart from that very good so far and thank you.

All of this is Steam on PC

 

(PS5) Ran a service from Leeds to Bradford in the Class 331. Throughout the journey I did not hear one single DSD/Vigilance alarm. And yes I have all safety systems turned on

 

Can someone help me just started this game first service can't press any buttons are anything I can look outside shut door but when I hover over masterkey can't touch it can't even change controller layout I like so i can see words what they are

 

There's supposed to be a big screen showing all the destinations and the next departure in front of the ticket gates at Leeds.

 

On Xbox series X.
Service 5D26 part 1. Class 801 5 car.
Tail light not illuminating & walkway between last 2 cars is missing.

 

Anyone else having problems with the barberpole not showing in the top left. I prefer to have a 1 mile countdown but the icon is not showing up. Has this been omitted from the game?

I have tried everything and it still doesn't show, I am passing this on as a bug

 

So far its happened with every service that guard mode is used on for me. However 2H18 might be the one your wanting.

 

No stop car markers at any station on the whole route from what I can see - surely they must be there in real life?

I haven't had a single successful station stop with conductor mode on 'realistic' either but looks like you're aware of all the issues there too.

 

the beeping in the 333 when you start a service and put the reverser in neutral is horrible, i don’t remember hearing that in the preview so unless im doing something wrong, that appears to be a bug

 

I have this strange black box appearing over Steeton station area
PC 5P19

 

Something floating over Bingley station

 

The class 66 had still the on/off parking brake indicator bug in the cab from the past. There is also a big gap between the locomotive and the new hoa wagons when coupled.

 

Class 331 Tutorial: I had to do several laps around the test track to get the platinum medal because 2100 points are required.
Doing the tutorial normally gives less than 1000.

PC/Steam.

 

On any of the class 801/1 services with 2 train sets attached, it seems only the first 5 cars, or first set, is powered and the second set attached is not. There is no sound from the rear 5 cars, and the pantographs are down on that unit as well. The train also just feels heavier like you're dragging something when accelerating.

 

Check the controller settings. You have audio for safety systems coming out of the controller speaker. Makes the alarms silent if you use a headset.

 

Same here.

 

PC, Steam, 5800X3D / 3090 / 64GB

Very nice I like it. Good choice for a route I think.

Good:

• Custom building models, bridges and stations are fantastic
• Overall appearance of scenery is realistic
• Super to see work crews - very nice feature

Not so good:

• Lot of pop-in and LOD pop on the trees and bushes
• Pop-in of cars on motorway
• Have quite a number of layers but only saw 333s

Problems:

• I had a door fault on the 331 and it didn't say anything, just wouldn't lock the doors. Happened again at end of timetable run but did one time show the message.
• Same tilted camera when walking down train FPV I had seen in TSW6.
• Unable to trigger end of timetable service - unload passengers never achieved. Seen this before too. Not able to lock right doors despite clearing fault. This is a major concern as the player doesn't get credit for the service.

 

Just to add onto my original feedback regarding the 331:

Headlights - seem to have a yellow hue/haze to them unless I’m seeing things. Not sure if this is accurate but I’m pretty sure they should be white! I work with 195’s and headlights are white LED’s.

On the 195’s however, Im pretty sure the middle top headlight above the cab has some sort of yellow/cream hue to them in real life so you should be fine with that, just the main day and night lights that’ll need a look at.

I also think the light coming from the lights themselves might be a bit too bright or something. On the 195’s IRL at night, the lights are somewhat bright but you are able to see more of the individual LED’s but on the game, it’s not as clear in my opinion, maybe less flare coming from them but whilst they produce the same amount of light?

Decals - on the bodywork of the 331’s, the Blue circle with the N, the shade of blue seems a bit too bright/light during the day (haven’t played at night yet). I think it should be a little darker and more “solid/smooth”!

livery/colours - not sure if its just me but the blue and the white and basically every colour on the exterior seems to be more on the Matte side of things rather than being more shiny and glossy. They are glossy in real life but on my earlier run before, I feel like the Blue on the front and rear should be a little more glossy and maybe a tad darker, just seems really vibrant during the day.

I will do another run tonight so I can confirm what I’ve said with images, if there is a problem

apart from that, everything else seems fine to me from what I’ve played! Really love the modelling and how accurate the interiors are, bravo! I’m in the 195 cabs and saloon once a night and everything is spot on. The floor vinyls are the exact colour and design, the cab light button is exactly how it should be, even the emergency tape, metal tube and I believe a drivers key is modeled in the left storage compartment by the door!

just need a 195 next

 

Series X class 331 all services irrespective of using AI guard or not when closing doors one set always remains open despite random faults been OFF results in lost time having to manually close doors

 

PC - Class 331 - done 3 timetable runs and not been able to complete any of them due to getting stuck on 'lock doors' at final station, even after going through and checking all doors are closed. Also on the 331, day headlight doesn't show up on the headlight display as it doesn't show markers illuminated

 

Yep - same here (PS5) and also posted in the core game feedback thread.

 

Separate bug/issue on PS5 (pro) - noticeable audio popping on the 802, the same as for the 802 on Riviera Line which wasn't fixed for the entirety of TSW6's lifespan. Some good stuff in this version, but the carryover of known bugs and issues despite 'quality of life' improvements being promised is disappointing.

 

PC Steam,
I completed the Class 331 introduction on the test track, it appears that when you reach the final stop that the marker showing the outline of the consist you are supposed to stop within is reversed, like you was supposed to travel in the opposite direction around the test track, it didn't stop me completing the scenario, just thought I would mention it.

 

Xbox Series S
Great looking route so far and no real issues. My only big issue is the lack of passengers around Leeds. I understand its probably because of memory limitations but seeing Leeds the majority of the time completely empty is a real emersion killer.

 

PC Steam:
I like to ride up front to learn every route. I was surprised when I walked into the cab of the 06:18 Skipton to Leeds to find the train was driving itself, no AI driver. Class 331 btw.

 

First stations in general theres a lack of passengers on your service. Picks up a little along the way but yes stations are very quiet.

Ps5 here and its all services