Another Update, More Broken Stuff

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  1. MYG92

    MYG92 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it’s doesn’t matter which train it is but yeah it’s definitely happening because of that update, I’ve never seen that before.
     
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    That would be the gangway itself stretching out ridiculously. If you toy around with coupling coaches together, the same thing occurs when you couple a dual braked MK1 BG to a vacuum braked MK1 of most types, as the dual braked BGs have moving gangways to link up to the MK2s while the vacuum braked ones have static gangways.
     
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  3. FredElliott

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    Just got to Rochester, and the Javelin approaching me at 17:14 had a whole load of fences coming out of each front cab ha

    Edit: Just drove past the back of the Javelin and the rear coach is completely missing
     
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  4. MYG92

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    Yes. It’s definitely from different gangways, it was moving with the train attached to.
     
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    west coastway trains Well-Known Member

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    Every time dtg look like potentially taking a step forward they shoot themselves in the foot and fall back to ground floor. I suppose we’re used to it
     
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  6. Gianluca

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    Is there one tutorial for formation designer? I want to make one IC train whit one Vectron at both end but cannot find the Br 101 IC coaches
     
  7. MP600

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    Example of the MK1s having gangway issues. You can see how the dual brake BGs connects sideways to the middle of a MK1 TSO, or on a vacuum BG it skips past the other gangway and connects direct to the main body. This has actually been a thing since at least TSW2, I recall similar issues with the gangways on the shunting services on Diesel Legends.

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  8. MJCKP

    MJCKP Well-Known Member

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    The 375 gangway bug is happening for me as well, pics:
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  9. Es4t

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    DTG will soon be a company consisting only of Community Managers….I see (another) started recently…I guess to deal with all the negativity!
    C’mon DTG start focusing on fixing your game!
     
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    Not quite yet, but it's getting closer.... :)

    You would probably get a one-way trip to the nearest psyche ward if you said that anywhere else. :D
     
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    It’s definitely the 375 causing that
     

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    The same thing happens to me on ps5.
    Every time DTG updates the game I have nightmares.
     
  13. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Guess I won't be touching SEHS anytime soon then.
     
  14. phillip.good

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    Yep, I have a wall coming across the track from the depot at gillingham, an extended black wall across the platforms and concourse at Victoria on BML and two crashes to desktop (one on ECML approaching Donnybrook and one on the normally stable BML whilst standing on Balham platform) which I suspect are not coincidences….. PS5 btw
     
  15. Midnight

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    The XBOX version of TSW4 is a broken mess at the best of times. We get lots of platform exclusive Z-fighting issues and other random glitches.

    So it's just business as usual if our patch drops tomorrow morning.
     
  16. SeventeenF

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    Oh yeah, I know one of those. This happened to me a couple weeks ago during a shunting scenario on Blackpool Branches (at Preston). I cut a train, but the gangway decided to keep thinking it was attached to both parts.
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  17. OldVern

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    So… is the game broken on all platforms (I play on PC), or just consoles?
     
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  18. meridian#2659

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    Maybe the broken dosto lights should be checked on all coaches of german content. Possibly they broke the "zugsammelschiene" on all vehicles.

    Need to check first, but couldnt get work the ic coaches with the 182 either...
     
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    Interestingly, they are permanently on on the SRM Dostos now. (And the switch on the 111 is wrong, it has 3 positions it rests in in the sim: On - Off - On, though it should be a (spring?) switch Off - center - On). So moving it to the lower (correctly labelled) OFF position actually turns them ON again...
     
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    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

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    After the 111 tap changer mess and obviously untested update, im again holding my wallet. Wanted the 1116, but ill get the route together with 5 circle on summer or autume sale.

    I have enough routes to play next 25 years. Didnt even start US services past years. All German / uk content kept me busy ;)

    Not being able to drive the 111 now properly is just...meh..
     
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  21. countcussy

    countcussy Well-Known Member

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    I can be pretty tolerant & choose my DLC carefully.
    However, breaking previously working content I have already paid for is just not acceptable.
    Waiting weeks/months for a fix is also not acceptable.

    No excuses DTG. Sort it out.
     
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  22. noir

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    Somebody also licked off the type signs on some of Austrian signals. Or at least I did not notice it previously.

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  23. Spikee1975

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    I have the old pak installed, I can switch to the previous version by just renaming it. Where exactly is this signal located?

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  24. noir

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    I think this was Bksig at km 49,6 from Frastanz to Feldkirch.

    Some station name signs in Hohenems are also facing the wrong way for me.
     
  25. Spikee1975

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    Vorarlberg hasn't been updated.

    But paks\TS2Prototype-WindowsNoEditor-EuropeanContentPack-coredata.pak has been, maybe the signals are in there.

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    I am also noticing that resuming a saved game causes a crash now on PS5 too. I think they need to role the core update back as it appears to have made qute a mess :(
     
  27. MP600

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    I knew this happened on Diesel Legends years back but not on Blackpool too. Must be a pretty major part about how the BGs are scripted. Makes me wonder if the Flying Scotsman or NTP ones behave the same.
     
  28. Spikee1975

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    I remember that happening too on that shunting service, as I wasn't expecting it, it was a disturbing jumpscare for a moment... it was that service where you have to remove a train first from the map to not get stuck later on?

    Though I never had this anywhere else.
     
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  29. MYG92

    MYG92 Well-Known Member

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    It’s quite sad, this was happening in TSW3 for me and got quickly resolved. Since BPO came out, I’m having the same problem with the gangways and it’s only on the brake coaches.
     
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    SEHS is unplayable I can confirm. Lots of glitching and bugs appearing especially with the geometry of trains. Needs an emergency fix asap.
     

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    addry#6825 Understand it is immersion breaking and shouldn't be there and agree it needs to be fixed - but does it actually stop you passing through it please? Like a buffer? Or can you still drive through? Just wondering as don't want to load up SEHS if it doesn't work. One of my favourite routes and was going to play it today.
     
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    Doesn’t stop you no, you pass through it. It’s the 375 in blue southeastern livery that’s the culprit because I was running London commuter and it was fine until I made a pass on that train with that livery.
     
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  33. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Looking into the SEHS gangway issue - can I just get confirmation if this is definitely new with this patch? I have vague unconfirmed memory that i saw someone mention it prior to the patch - we're digging into possible changes and knowing a timeframe will help immensely.

    Should be a quick fix once we find out what broke it. There was no change made to SEHS itself - this seems to be a knock on from something in core from what I would guess.

    Apologies, we'll get it fixed asap. If anyone can DM me with any more info that would be appreciated.

    Note: Gangway issues caused by certain combinations in formation designer is a separate issue (albeit equally annoying) - in this case i'm specifically talking about the broken gangways on previously perfectly good formations.

    Matt.
     
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  34. MYG92

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    For me this is happening after the patch.
     
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    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    So definitely NOT before the patch - and can you confirm positively seen working before vs "didnt play it before" ?

    If it's definitely this patch - that narrows things down a lot.

    Matt.
     
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    I personally haven't seen it before the patch dropped the other day (PS5). On service 9P50 when running to timetable, I had the first 365 texture warped at the front coach, then the Javelin at Rochester you meet had the same thing. The next Javelin you meet had the entire rear coach missing

    To clarify, I've seen missing coaches very occasionally in consists that I don't control, but I've never seen the texture warping like in the OP screenshots before this patch, and can confirm that SEHS displayed as expected the last time I played it (maybe a couple of weeks ago)
     
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  37. MJCKP

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    As far as I know the 375 gangway issue is new to this patch. The 38 Stock, 72 Stock, 484 and 4024 are also broken in free roam mode, not sure if this is to do with a core change as well
     
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    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Whats the free roam issue? Is this where they wont take power?
     
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    More details here https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...s-484-and-more-broken-after-last-patch.80592/

    None of them take power, but there also seem to be a few other issues:
    • Almost nothing works on the Class 484, including headlights, passenger door controls, PIS, cab lights, saloon lights, etc
    • The left side cab door of the 38 Stock will not open. The right side door works fine
    • The door controls on the 38 Stock so not work, either using the tab menu or the cab buttons
    • Saloon lights on the 38 Stock do not work
    It only seems to affect trains spawned using free roam menu, if you start a timetable service the train works fine
     
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    For me, yes, without a doubt it was caused by this week's patch (ps5).
     
  41. Spikee1975

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    I'd say roll back the Spring Core Update completely. Test it internally and push it out when it's actually ready.
     
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  42. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    What are your fastest ways to repro the gangway issue?

    I'm running on my xbox series x and thus far not seeing it but maybe i havent looked far enough.
     
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    The Xbox patch hasn't gone out yet has it? Went out yesterday

    On PS5 it occurred inside a few minutes on SEHS 9P50 in the 700
     
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  44. DTG Matt

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    I'll try PS5 too then.

    I ran 9P50 and didnt see an issue - which train is it that has the problem? I'll go re-run it and open my eyes wider.

    Matt.
     
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    I think it is a blue 375 that passes you after a while, I will see if I can get a video of it (I am on Steam)
     
  46. DTG Matt

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    Ok just ran the first bit of 9P50 - by the time i've got to Gillingham i've passed an 8 car blue electrostar (no issues), and a white electrostar in the left hand platform - again no issues. maybe i'm missing a DLC... i'll try on PS5 as well.

    Matt.
     
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    On service 9P50 when running to timetable, I had the first 385 texture warped at the front coach, then the Javelin at Rochester you meet had the same thing. The next Javelin you meet had the entire rear coach missing
     
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    Got videos of it:
    Class 700 service 9P50, first 375 to go past, on Steam:


     
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    Ta, taking another look...
     
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    Also, I spawned an 8 car 375 and uncoupled and coupled it a few times, this happened:
     

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