Antelope Valley And Its Freight Content

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  1. cmadonna1998

    cmadonna1998 Active Member

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    That’s not the move in my opinion. It will severely limit what routes you can make, or make routes feel incomplete. In my mind a combined passenger/freight route is the best. Appeals to a wider audience, makes the freight more challenging (many more adverse aspects when following passenger trains for example) and makes a route feel more alive and varied. Hopefully this theory is not correct.
     
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  2. Canadian Follower

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    Since Dovetail needs more money and requires CJP for the freight layers to be active, it makes me believe in this a little bit because it therefore makes people pay for 2 different routes just to get different variety in U.S content.
     
  3. stewartforgie

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    I can't for the life of me, understand why the freight yard at L.A .was left out.
     
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  4. cmadonna1998

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    I mean, I think we can all figure out why it was left out, it just was not a very good decision at all.
     
  5. Blacknred81

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    Yeah, I really hate the decision to leave out Union Pacific's LATC yard. aaaa.png
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    -Its literally right there across the LA river.
    -The layered freight services are "supposed" to originate from there, but it doesn't exist in game.....
    -The yard could easily of been made with assets from San Bernardino's Intermodal Yard

    I just dont get it......
     
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  6. EpilepticWeasel

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    I hope this is not the case as I also feel a route with both passenger and freight would be at the pinnacle of US content right now. Unfortunately, anything electrified in the NEC is not really gonna have mainline freight so I understand it not being present there. AVL definitely missed some opportunities with freight. Would have been fun to run a southbound freight against the evening commuter rush and have to sit in a lot of sidings, just something not ever represented in game.
    I think there are a lot of routes that could be good hybrid freight/passenger routes. Not sure licensing for some like Seattle Sounder or Utah Frontrunner but those are both 70-80 mile routes that seem feasible.
    CSX RF&P DC - Richmond would be great but is a little long at like 109 miles and unsure about the VRE license.
    Amtrak Capital Corridor from Oakland Jack London Square - Sacramento would be awesome with two long distance Superliner trains, the Capital Corridors, San Joaquins for a little bit of the route, and a large amount of freight. It's just slightly long at 90 miles but only 9 stations and fairly rural in a lot of parts so there is a little less intensity in modeling stations and urban areas. That one could be a decent option.
     
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  7. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    Seems like there's a whole lot of stuff we dont get about this route.

    It's very reminiscent of NYT, a lot of things left out for reasons that no-one has been able to explain.

    Maybe if people make enough noise, they'll take another look like they did with that route ( after saying that they wouldn't ).
     
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  8. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    The thing with Utah Fronteunner is that their system is completely separated from the UP mainline so they don't interfere with each other.

    Not sure how that would effect routing as no mainline freight would have to compete with the commuter trains as they are both on their own dedicated lines.
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  9. EpilepticWeasel

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    Interesting I did not know that!
     
  10. malikrthr

    malikrthr Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if it is just me but it seems with every US passenger route, there is always a complaint about something that is missing. But with routes in other countries, there are so many pieces of rolling stock/trackage to be encountered and it feels more full. Why is it that we can't get the full package, but instead half of what is requested when it comes to US content in general?
     
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  11. DTG JD

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    Waiting for the excuses, sincere or lame, from DTG and the console kiddies fawning over their newest trainset not living up to their expectations.

    Vote with your wallet, put it on your wishlist, wait for the inevitable bugs, omissions and shortcomings that passed DTG's infamous QA, hope for a patch, wish for that patch to squash the biggest bugs and buy the route at a nice discount that makes it worth its actual value.
     
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  13. cmadonna1998

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    This is what I am doing. Since I am on PS5 without PS Plus there is no advantage to me pre-ordering. I'll wait for the sale after release.
     
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    It depends. If you choose deluxe edition then even with the price of PSPlus for one month you can save some money.
     
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    I'm I reading this correctly,the time table layers only applicable for Gen 9 and PC only?
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  16. DTG JD

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    I'll check tomorrow with the team. I believe all layers should be for all platforms though. Might be a miscommunication, but will confirm.
     
  17. bakedpotatos.jm

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    It shows it on the DRA one so if it is true DRA will become less varied for 8th gen.

    But probably an oversight.
     
  18. docsnyder1911

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    I think they will have all the layers. But for Gen8 it will have the typical short trains with 30-40 cars only, how it's typical since SMH.
     
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  19. Blacknred81

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    You know what would of been interesting?

    If DTG had included the UP SD70ACe with AVL, but gave it UP's new paint. (I still don't like it, but its modern) And had it mix with the ACe from Sherman Hill.
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  20. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Can confirm Gen8 and Gen9 have access to the same layers on Antelope. Just checking on the others, and will ask the team to amend the Gameplay Guides to reflect the most up-to-date info. The Gen9 comment is more of a disclaimer as we test performance across platforms.
     
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  22. 21c164fightercommand

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    So console constraints still hold back the game?
    And players with powerful PC's suffer?
     
  23. docsnyder1911

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    No. You get longer and that's why more realistic trains and higher resololution. If Gen 8 would hold back the game, you would have the short North American freight trains and bad graphics on your high end PC too.
     
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