April Fools

Why lie? You honestly don’t care? “Rush out another one boys, the suckers will buy it and forget about the bugs in the previous dlc we didn’t bother finishing properly”

 

What's the point of this post? What's the deal with getting all aggressive and critical to dtg staff members and skyhook? Why do you think it's appropriate to call them out this way?

 

Assume you've read Janes post......

 

No offense intended against anyone, but let's recall that Skyhook developed DB 187.
I don't agree with OP's harsh words but still I feel that the general criticism is justified, considering their track record with fixes so far.

As far as their promises go -
I'll believe it, when I'll see them getting delivered...

 

It amazes me how some think that being obnoxious actually gets their point across!

 

So, if you read these: (Midland Mainline - Leicester To Derby & Nottingham | Page 26 | Dovetail Games Forums and Midland Mainline - Skyhook Feedback | Page 4 | Dovetail Games Forums) Then you might find out what the negative criticism is all about.

 

So, To start with. Its not being 'Obnoxious' its generally the truth and experiences we have all had from MML, Just from this post I take it you haven't played MML and are just sticking up for DTG and Skyhook. I don't mean to be rude although if you read the threads about MML there are many negative things..

(I apologise if I have got the grasp of what you were saying completely wrong as I didn't read in detail)

 

Half of the complaints about MML are petty at best, lets be honest. Some of the complaints aren't relevant to MML and are issues with the base game. This forum can one of the more toxic ones I've been on in along time, and I frequent both League's and Overwatch's

Bear in mind, it is ALWAYS the same people complaining on dlc after dlc. Remember that the silent majority are content and happy with what is put out.
Not every user here agrees with you, and some that voice their approval are usually bullied into staying quiet.

I'm not vehemently defending DTG or Skyhook, but I genuinely do not have any issues with MML. I have played it, I inface quite like it.

I also like Rivets WCL and EDN.

Am I a 'train enthusiast'? No, I just play simulators, so to be accuracy really doesn't matter.

Bugs are just a fact of life with digital content. Anyone who expects products to be 100% perfect and cheap to buy needs to get their head out of the sand. And I will happily refer to CoD, Fallout 76, ETS2/ATS, Snowrunner as examples of games that are from studios that are major developers, but also cannot release bug free content.

 

Yea, I have read through all of them and I know that skyhook has a poor reputation and understand the criticism, but the op could have asked in a more respectful way. First of all, the title is unprofessional and nonsense. Who puts april fools and then writes a post to call the devs liars. Almost sounds like op is mocking them. That is not how you treat someone. There is a difference between complaining and giving constructive criticism.

 

Why such an aggressive post? Theres a way to put your point across. This isn't the way

 

I agree, I like MML and I'm not sticking up for anyone in this. Its fair for people to have their own opinions and that's alright, I'm not forcing you to agree in any way I am only expressing my point of opinion.

 

Calling a whole bunch of people liars in the first sentence is obnoxious.
Saying they're careless in the second doubles down.
Maybe you're reading this post in a different way to me, but generally being constructive in your criticism is likely to be heard more than lambasting someone over and again (which IRL would be classed as bullying and overly aggressive, but of course this is the internet so people of limited intellect and ability to form a proper discourse can have as much of a right of publishing their thoughts as people who actually have a valid point)

 

I only wrote one sentence so not sure what detail you might have missed.

If you actually read the forums rather than making baseless assumptions because certain comments don't chime in with your own arguments you would not only see that I not only own and have played MML, I started a thread complaining about the timetable. You will also notice that I often complain about DTG, I often complement DTG, I try a balanced approach as I generally get enjoyment out of TSW however it often leaves me frustrated and my comments coincide with my views and not jumping on a bandwagon.

So maybe try and do some research before trying to be clever.....

......as you might end up looking a bit silly!

And the opening post was obnoxious!

 

My god there is alot of Karen's about

 

I have a feeling that I am just going to end following this thread, As I take it I am coming across as rude when I am trying not to be, It's only my opinion.

 

All I see in the first link is you feeling aggrieved by TSW's quality, and just basically saying "I've been a customer for so long, i'm outraged"

Nothing really constructive.

The OP was quite obnoxious/aggressive. He basically implied that everyone at DTG/Skyhook are just liars and shouldn't be trusted. That's a personal attack against them all, one could argue.

They didn't actually offer anything constructive either, to balance it. It was a general criticism riddled with aggression.

 

All I say is, There's nothing wrong with two sides having their own opinion. I love MML, I just wanted to express the problems and lack of care for a route that costs £30.

 

I didn't say there was anything wrong with differing opinions - they are absolutely necessary to improving TSW, or anything in life. However, if nothing constructive or worth noting is added, it's not worth your while. If I turned round and said "The game's LOVE", what do Dovetail or Skyhook take from that?

Answer: Absolutely nothing.

 

Actually there can be great harm in having and espousing an uninformed or baseless or vindictive opinion that just gets thrown out there without thought or cause of what will happen to the recipients of said opinion
To say otherwise opens up a whole hornets nest of possibilities for trolling, abuse and malicious behavior that isn't warranted and it's only when people of conscience stand up to such an attitude that the world of constructive criticism and constructive addition to a forum can take place.
as trainsimplayer above said, we could all just throw random spewing bile into the forum, but that doesn't do anything other than make the person venting feel a bit better about themselves, but it's an empty contribution. It's not improving the game, the way people look at things or give any feedback to the devs other than "Hey, you know those faults you're already reading about fifteen times an hour... Well I'm also venting"
There are many many more ways to be helpful and constructive and had the OP used any of them we'd be saying "Yup, we agree" rather than "oops, please can the red faced slightly angry person go take five minutes on the naughty step to calm down a bit"