Armstrong Powerhouse Wip Dlc News

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  1. 390001

    390001 Well-Known Member

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    There are other developers besides AP funny enough. I wouldn’t say AP are masters at textures. Did you see the blurry textures when you zoom in on the 700 and jagged edges
     
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    Facts
     
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    I don't have the 700 EP, but AP's textures are masterful enough for you to use them as your avatar!
     
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    Indeed it is a nice screenshot glad you like it. Go on YouTube and take a look at yawwie video of the 700 pack you will see the texture issue I am referring to
     
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    It would be brilliant if Duncan released his own pure bread GST 47! I'm all for it :)
     
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    Let's not forget where Duncan (GST) started too, retexturing the cab of the HSTs.... Oh that's right, the AP enhanced HSTs....
     
  7. Pookeyhead

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    [​IMG]
    Why is no one actually talking about how amazing those clouds look instead of complaining about the 700EP? If this is representative of the improvements to the weather EP, I personally cannot wait.
     
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  8. Reef

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    Sorry Maam.
     
  9. Wivenswold

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    Serious point. If anyone out there has 3d modelling skills or thinks they have what it takes to make 3D models for simulators then you could have a very nice little job there. Especially if you can scan diagrams and photos of trains and create the model that way.

    I've tried building routes, I'm LOVE at that so I think I'm too old, but the Train Sim community needs fresh, young talent to make new trains for TSC and TSW as there are so many classes sitting waiting to be made. There's money where there's a gap in a market.
     
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  10. Pookeyhead

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    I don't think age has anything to do with it. I learn new skills all the time, and I'm no spring chicken. It's just something you can't wrap your head around. It's a skill after all, and we're all suited to different things. I can't get my head around modelling either.
     
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  11. gee

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    Yeah, like the 195 and 331. To heck with what Dickie Legweak thinks of them.
     
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    Nearly a decade ago I'd got my head around Blender and created content both for Farm Sim and ETS2, I wouldn't have a clue what to do now though, it's not like riding a bike I forget stuff and it's gone, I'd need to relearn the whole process and that I just don't have the free time to do any more. not that I ever created complex in-depth models like a loco but I could've easily made buildings and scenery items if I had kept up with it all.
     
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  13. Pookeyhead

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    I can actually use blender very well. I can set up lighting, textures, HDRI, animate... I just can't make models to save my life.
     
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  14. Pookeyhead

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    I can't agree more. These things are all over the north of England. Basically, not having these in the sim is like just ignoring Northern as a TOC... in fact, it's like ignoring the north of England entirely.
     
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    The Northern 195 + 331 units would be easy for a builder as they use a common bodyshell
     
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    Yeah, I would imagine they would be sold as the same product.
     
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    not through AP the wouldnt. They woukd stretch them out as volumes o
     
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    Unlikely, as it's the same unit really. They don't do separate products for the 377/379/387, or the 700/707/717. I see no reason why they would release the 195/331 as two separate products.
    [edit]... Sorry.. misread. They did volumes for the 319 and 37 for example, as there were just so many variants and liveries, but there is basically just two variants, operated by one company, in one livery, and one layout, with the only difference being power. I can't imagine they would do this, as it would be essentially two volumes, each consisting of one vehicle, in one livery.
     
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    Ain’t stopped them before
     
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    What have they sold as separate volumes where each volume only has one single variant?
     
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    Class 319
    Class 455
    Class 465/466
     
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    ......where each volume only has one single variant? That's what it would be if they had the 195 as vol1. and the 331 as vol.2., as Northern is the only operator, and both units are identical apart from the motive power.
     
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    Diesel vs electric makes two different pack likely IMO
     
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  24. Pookeyhead

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    Highly unlikely IMO. It would be like making a 73, and having two packs, one for diesel, and one for third rail. Besides, that's not what he was on about. He was saying the product would be split into two volumes, like the 37 or 319 was. That was only because the sheer number of variants made it worthwhile, plus there were some major interior changes between the two 319 volumes. It just made sense rather than one massive product of many GBs. With the 195/331, there is just one single train operating company, and apart from the motive power, there are no differences between the two. The only difference would be the scripting, roof details. If they can have three different types of pantograph on the 87, in one pack and one volume, then I see no reason why this should be any different.
     
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  25. Doomotron

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    331s aren't bi-mode, they may share the same bodyshell and interior but they are not the same train. The 377 was split over two packs, there's no way the 331 and 195 with separate gameplay, sounds and uses will be included in one pack.
     
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    Err, I thought this was a thread about AP WIP projects, not things they aren't working on and have never indicated any intention to do so.
     
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    I know, I never said they were... not once, ever :) I was saying that if AP released one, it would almost certainly be the same product, and not two separate ones. And Ironbladder is right... they aren't working on one. Someone should be though. It is impossible to have an accurate modern day scenario in the north of England in TSC currently.
     
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    No, but you compared them to 73s which are bi-mode, and I was saying the comparison cannot work because 331s and 195s aren't bi-mode.
     
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    So, I wonder what AP are working on at the mo? Any ideas?
     
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  30. torfmeister

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    I am hoping for a rerelease of the vital Class 40. Still don't know what they considered bad about it (got the Steam version and I like it.)

    And finally a worthy model of the Class 55 / Deltic, that's what I'd wish for.
     
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  31. dunkrez

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    May have been a distribution rights thing with Railright(?) - I have the pack and it's nice.
     
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  32. torfmeister

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    AP's statement was that it was not up to their own quality standards anymore (whatever that means) - could be (preventing) legal issues with RR, agreed. I'm glad I've got the BR Blue Steam version at least...
     
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    Question how does he RW enhancer detects that you have the sky weather pack. I just bought the weather pack but when I go to change the shaders it doesn’t show like your does like the fog. That it has the statement. Do you have to do anything specific. Thanks
     
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    I am too, hopefully combining the Steam and AP versions as they had different content. Apparently it's because of 64-bit glitches with the locomotives but I don't know what they are and for me the train seems to work perfectly - and despite its age is still brilliant.
     
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  35. Pookeyhead

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    The sound was a bit poo if I'm honest.
     
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    It's ironic that Vulcan is already trying to put out a 47, and AP seems to want to compete with them instead of working for the common good. All you need to see it that way is what happened to the 55 pack from VP. The sounds went away from the AP store, they couldn't get permission to use them and the scripts, and the payware pack became a paperweight.

    Luckily I had the sounds already and grabbed it right before it went off sale. I'll play it. Eventually. :D
     
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  37. Pookeyhead

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    I'm sure the VP Preserved Deltic pack was not the reason AP removed the sound pack, as not only did they give permission for VP to use the sound pack, they also allowed them to modify it. If they had an issue with the use of the sound pack, they'd have just said no from the get go. Do you actually know AP withdrew it for this reason, or are you just speculating?
     
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  38. USRailFan

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    I think Vulcan withdrew the Deltic part partly because of the East Coast route from Creative Rails no longer being available
     
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    Hi, I'm the main dev of the Vulcan Deltic Pack, can people please try not to speculate or put words into places where they weren't said?

    The pack was withdrawn because the loco audio required the AP Sound Pack. As it is quite an aged pack there was no associated script, but simulation files were also part of the AP pack I believe. AFAIK there is nothing to do with the Deltic Pack that requires the Creative Rail ECML route, having just checked through the manual.

    I hope this helps clear a few things up.
     
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    Speculating as to why the pack got pulled. It just seems odd that both companies are apparently working on a 47 now. It would not do the community well to have competing products. However, perhaps the VP one is the one they are waiting for word on, like the rest of us. Hard for any of us to say. :)

    Apologies if I misstepped there. I thought it might be a script, so simulation files being involved clears up more the reasons for it. It's just too bad you weren't allowed to continue using those even with the default sounds.
     
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    The customer always benefits from competition in the marketplace. It's when you have one company dominating a market it's bad.
     
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    I think it depends what RW Enhancer version you have, RW Enhancer 2 is the version I own and has the abilities to detect things like that and prevent it’s settings from conflicting with the Armstrong Powerhouse Sky & Weather Enhancement Pack 2.0. I’m not sure if RW Enhancer or RW Enhancer Pro can detect this.
    I disagree, it’s always good to have competitors because it forces the competitors to make their products very good and better than the other and allows us to get some good products instead of lazily done ones.
     
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    I have the same version RW enhancer 2.0.
    That’s why Ia sled since I just purchased the sky weather 2.0 figured I had to do something to get it to detect
     
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    No argument there. But I would prefer they make different products. :D Otherwise, collaborating on one product seems ideal.
     
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    Did you get RW Enhancer 2 before or after the Sky & Weather enhancement pack? Because if you had the Sky & Weather enhancement pack and then got RW Enhancer 2 I believe you have to reinstall the Sky & Weather enhancement pack. Otherwise I’m not sure why it isn’t blocking you from using certain features because of the Sky & Weather enhancement pack.
     
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    Well is complicated. I had rw enhancer 2 before but I changed my hard drive so I had to redownload everything. So in the process I installed the Armstrong weather first then the RW. So then I tried reinstalling the weather an still the same
     
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    I might be wrong and Matthew will know the correct answer, but the sound and simulation files came with the AP Class 55 Sound pack and VP could not distribute any of those files in their Class 55 Mega Pack.
    So even if the pack was still on VP people without the AP Class 55 Sound pack would be unable to it.
     
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    I had to update the Rw enhancer and now it detects the sky weather. I weird because I just downloaded a couple of days ago. But all good now. Thanks
     
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    No problem, good to hear that it’s working for you now!
     
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    where have AP said they ARE MAKING a class 47 they have not confirmed anything they have said the would LIKE TO do please don’t speculate saying they are competing
     

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