Athena Simulations: Ecml Diesel Railtours

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  1. Spikee1975

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    The 158 still has broken "freezing" gauges and missing exhausts. At least Skyhook fixed the low cab texturing. cwf.green's work was fine though.
     
  2. shredder

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    I’ve always hoped this would be the case at some point.

    It would have to be a limited choice, or something fairly generic though, as chasing licenses and specific locos would be hard, especially if the developer has agreed to deliver anything without thinking it through.

    An example:
    1) a modern day AC loco
    2) a modern day DMU
    3) a ‘classic’ DMU or Loco

    (all compatible with the ECML route)
     
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  3. 14trainfan2029

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    could you guys do the headlight box at the bottom of the indicator light as it would be a nice addition?. And it would definitely add even more realism
     
  4. Bravo2six

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    I didn't think the 158s produced much clag/ exhaust, at least not that I've experienced.
     
  5. KatiaBLR

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    There are only 2 things i'd love to see in all of Train Sim World in the future

    One: extend the current ECML route from Doncaster to York

    Two: introduce the Class 91 to the route

    So i add my +1 to the Class 91 for sure!
     
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  6. RobSkip

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    The screws on the nameplate should be countersunk, and there should be a lot more of them!
    https://flic.kr/p/9Rx6gm

    The roof panels were also black, not green.
    https://flic.kr/p/NEGrMG

    Also the wrong marker lights on at least the No1 end, can't say for No2 as we haven't seen it yet. 47484 had sealed beam marker lights at both ends, No2 end on the recessed panel as-standard after SSF fitment, No1 end plated over after accident damage repair in 1979.
     
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  7. Mike-ATH

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    Thanks again for the feedback - We've now fixed the roof panels to be the correct colour. We already knew about the marker lights but hadn't swapped them to the correct ones yet so that's also been done now. The other side (with the repaired panel) was already done but I'll get some more screenshots posted this week to get more feedback. :)
     
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  8. DB628

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    Have you Photos from the new Version?
     
  9. Mike-ATH

    Mike-ATH Well-Known Member

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    I'm hoping to share some new screenshots this week once we've finished a few more tests.
     
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  10. k#9534

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    Haven't we got a sneak peek or hint at this "new loco" coming with this pack
     
  11. matt#4801

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    Um, well, you see. Actually that's the issue you didn't see the first post of this thread which shows various screenshots. I'd advise you have a scan through the thread quickly. To make things easier here is the first post:
     
  12. k#9534

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    I know about the 47 but I think there was something mentioned about a other loco coming soon i was just wondering If we did get a hint or not
     
  13. matt#4801

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    They are other packs though. From the way it has been described it will work like SHG's Cargo Line packs, with various packs releasing as part of a series. The other locos will be announced separately under the same name I'd assume.
     
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    no they dont... in the end everyone will buy it anyway and say: "oh, I just need new things to do. It´s actually totaly cool". Just like with the Cargo Line packs.
     
  15. DB628

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    Why we got no new Infos on the Roadmap or from the brandnew Train you mentioned?
     
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    Because they didn't have any new information to give to us probably.
     
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  17. Mike-ATH

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    For this pack, we have the 47484 Isambard Kingdom Brunel and MK1 coaches in BG livery, supported by appropriate routes/modes, plus a selection of scenarios focusing on the ECML. We do already have other locos and packs in development, as well as our first route. When the time comes, I'll make a new thread for each release to make it easier to discuss and share feedback. We'll be sharing more information on everything we have in the pipe as soon as we are able so please bear with us.
     
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  18. Mikey_9835

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    I was quite surprised this pack wasn't listed as coming in the next 3 months on the roadmap since we saw screenshots and it sounded like the pack was nearing completion
     
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    Athena
    When you have a moment,may I ask when the timetable for the class 47 is set.
    Thank you.
    Sorry forgot to say thanks for keeping the thread updated also.
     
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  20. dean stansfield

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    Probably delayed making Vern's buffet car .
    Will it be a Gresley or a MK1 Vern?
     
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  21. dean stansfield

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    Plenty hope it's this, though I think it'll take time, locomotive,dvt and mk4's.
    No small job for anyone.
     

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  22. k#9534

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    in a "diesel rail tour" pack?
     
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  23. Agent Qracle RUS

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    How I hope that it will be at least some British freight electric locomotive or diesel locomotive...
     
  24. dean stansfield

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    I was talking about their next release..
    Why not it fits anywhere with overhead;ran 35 years and counting on the ECML, spent a month on WCML on service trials.
    Might end up in Scotland after lner are done with them.
    .Iconic sight last all British built locomotive.Unique sounds
    Still around for reference.Half the forum would buy a well done 91.
    Speculation for now.
    Just a big job to do, that's the only thing.
    Someone's got to do it.
    Why not them?
     
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  25. aeronautic237

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    I think he was referring to how odd it would be to have an electric locomotive in a diesel railtour pack.
     
  26. Bravo2six

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    There isn't a timetable mode in the pack, if that's what you are asking?
     
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  27. k#9534

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    There saying if for said route the 47s timetable
     
  28. Strat-tastic

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    Indeed, a locomotive in the proper sense of the word, not a multiple unit which DTG thinks are locos. ;)
     
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  29. k#9534

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    this has gone off the radar for a bit anything new?
     
  30. dean stansfield

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    They've kept updating, when they have something new to tell us all, I'm sure they'll post here when they do.
    Mentioned some new screenshots which haven't materialised so far.

    Or they could be waiting till TSW 5 is in better shape.
    Or building Vern's restaurant carriage.:)
    At least we have more information than were getting about Cardiff commuter from Dtg, for an upcoming route a basic map is all we know.
    The only worry I've got is how much spare cash I can spare over the next three months.:)
     
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  31. Mike-ATH

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    Hello everyone!

    Apologies for our being quiet, but we’ve been hard at work and didn’t want to share more until we were ready.

    Today I have some screenshots of our 47484 Isambard Kingdom Brunel locomotive, being substituted into the recently released (and stellar) Preston - Carlisle route. We really love what the team at Just Trains have built, and feel they’ve set a benchmark for what is achievable, and the quality bar to aim for.

    TSW3_Jane_Whittaker_1732717151_00.jpg TSW3_Jane_Whittaker_1732716892_00.jpg

    We’ve collaborated with Just Trains to ensure that our loco comes supported on their new route from day one. I personally think it looks great, alongside the range already on offer, but we're keen to hear your thoughts.

    TSW3_Jane_Whittaker_1732716430_00.jpg TSW3_Jane_Whittaker_1732715786_00.jpg

    Finding ways to maximise how you can use the vast array of content on TSW is something we value both as players and developers. So making sure our locos and stock can be used in as many places as would make sense is a priority for us.

    Finally, I want to take this time to acknowledge the incredibly helpful feedback we've already received from everyone, such as on the nameplates and roof panels, and have been improving the loco accordingly. Please keep raising these things as you spot them so we can make improvements.

    We will share more information and details in the very near future. We are very excited to get this content into your hands!
     
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  32. Scorpion71

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    It's a pity that the Blue MK1's you are creating are vacum only, they would of been ideal for this route and BPO which could also sub in on the Mk2's for a nice mixed rake.
     
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    Actually, they are dual braked! We just need to update the decals.
     
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    Oh that's excellent news, could of sworn I read they were going to be vacuum only.
     
  35. samuelpower2001

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    With wcml is it just rail tours or pax services?
     
  36. SierraOscar95

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    Looking very promising!

    I think it's also a positive that you note JT is a benchmark standard to aim for.

    Look forward to more news closer to release. Very excited for the Mk1s too.
     
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    Our 47 can be substituted for timetable services operated by a Class 47 on Preston-Carlisle (WCML), Preston-Blackpool, Northern Transpennine and other routes that have a Class 47 in their timetable. In short, timetabled services for a Class 47 across the range of TSW routes can be swapped to use our Class 47 from the TSW5 menu.
     
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  38. samuelpower2001

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    Very much looking forward to this. You guys have done a great job so far from wip shots.
     
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    Gonna have to be 100% honest here and say that this does not look good at all in it's current form.

    I dont know what sort of feedback has been put into this but I can spot numerous errors with this based on my findings.

    I'll give a brief run down of what I feel desperately needs improving on this before it's released.

    • The Brunswick Green is too bright and there's not enough "warmth", looks more like an apple green under certain lighting (especially in the dark)
    upload_2024-11-29_16-43-59.png

    The BR orange lining is too bright, should be much darker shade of orange.

    upload_2024-11-29_16-53-5.png

    The flush end high intensity light is too far to the left marker light, it's slightly more off-centre IRL
    upload_2024-11-29_16-58-21.png upload_2024-11-29_16-58-32.png

    List of errors on the next post:
     

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  40. SprattyHeath

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    484 numberplate underneath the driver's window is slightly too large, needs scaling down a tad.
    upload_2024-11-29_17-22-22.png
    upload_2024-11-29_17-23-15.png


    BR Double arrow is too big and is the incorrect colour, should be gold and not bright steel white
    upload_2024-11-29_17-23-47.png

    upload_2024-11-29_17-24-41.png


    Bogies should have yellow axle boxes & whitewall wheels, some of the conduits on the bogie frame are white as well.
    upload_2024-11-29_17-25-0.png
     
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  41. samuelpower2001

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    Additionally, apologies to ask but are the other dlcs you folks are working on coming together well and when do you expect we will see more?
     
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  42. Bristolian

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    Thanks for posting these illustrations. Allied to the those, as can be seen, the yellow extends too far back behind the cab windows on the 47484 model.
     
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    No, it is correct. The image where the yellow doesn’t go all the way back to the door frame must be an image from a different livery than what is being made for TSW. Most pictures of the loco online show it as it is in the TSW model.
     
  44. Bristolian

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    Ahaa - On her first paint into GWR150 (along with 47079, 47500 and 47628), the green used was darker, akin to BR Green (not Brunswick Green, as the Green is mistakenly known as). The yellow didn't extend as far back.
    https://flic.kr/p/2i5bzuV

    She later received a repaint into a lighter Green, where the yellow extended further back.
    https://flic.kr/p/2ktNa8X

    In terms of accuracy, the original green used was correct, ready for GWR150.
     
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  45. Bristolian

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    47079 and 47484 were the only two that initially had the shorter yellow around the cab windows, 47500 and 47628 had it extended towards the door front edge.
     
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    Please do not take this as a hit and run, I am genuinely interested in whether those commenting on small colour differences are using calibrated monitors - for that matter do the developers and DTG themselves (would be surprised if they don't)? Most users do not do any monitor calibration.
     
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    You do realize that's a pretty small group you just identified right? =-)
     
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    Modelling is a skill that has to be learnt, but scenery in UE4 is pretty easy at least.
     
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    [EDIT - Jan - Language]
    This has to be a parody.
    It's like arguing with the missus over different shades of white curtains.
     
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  50. Bristolian

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    On the other hand, if you're going to do it, why not 'do it right'?.
     
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