Bakerloo Line Ai For The National Rail Lines

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  1. bmf165

    bmf165 New Member

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    Having played several of the TSW2 Bakerloo Line Scenarios, I could not help to notice the lack of AI trains (Overground Services between Queen's Park/Harrow & Wealdstone, also no AI trains on the WCML)
    I think these additions would make for a more immersive experience.

    Are there any plans to include these in the near future ?
     
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  2. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    The usual answer would be "if it's not on the roadmap..."
    Ie DTG haven't said they're making anything that would fit this purpose so safest to assume it's NOT planned or in the works.

    Feel free to make suitable suggestions in the suggestions area, but I would suggest rather than saying "make this for the Bakerloo" I would say "Here's an overground route with an overground train AND it can layer onto Bakerloo"
     
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  3. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

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    Do we have anything that could be put there without creating an extra model or livery? Because that is probably the only way this could be done by Pres-Crew.
     
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    4-COR Well-Known Member

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    you have roughly one 377 an hour in each direction until may but we only have a /4 and a "/1", not the /2 or /7 required. I guess 66s could run freight?
     
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  5. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    You could use a reskinned 313 to represent the Watford DC lines but they will only add to the traffic on the existing section over which the LT trains run.

    Also are the WCML main lines actually active tracks or just laid as scenic items, if the latter the whole route would need to be remade which DTG are unlikely to do?
     
  6. londonmidland

    londonmidland Well-Known Member

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    In all honesty I wouldn’t bet on anything being done with the Bakerloo Line regarding the WCML AI traffic.

    It was silly of DTG to choose this route as the WCML runs alongside it for a considerable distance. It just doesn’t feel right or realistic to have an empty WCML adjacent when driving on the BKL.
     
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  7. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely agree. They could have done the Northern Line which has little or no parallel running with main line rail and had a far more interesting route into the bargain!
     
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  8. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

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    Well after seeing the 5-year stream I think subway routes will be very rare in general. There has been a lot of agreement about them being a lot more difficult than expected.
     
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    trainsimgaming1001 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. Out of all of the Tube Lines, the Bakerloo is probably the worst one they could have done, though we should be grateful they didn't give us the Waterloo and City Line. I think the Circle, Piccadilly, or Metropolitan would have been a better choice
     
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  10. Taschi

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    I've made exactly the same observation on the day the Bakerloo Line released, so I'd say it's pretty unlikely for them to do anything about this at this point.
     
  11. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    If they had modeled a section of one of the cut and cover or surface lines or even included a significant portion of above ground trackage, I might still be playing it.
    Driving miles under ground past a dozen or more virtually identical subway stations becomes tedious in a hurry.
     
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  12. Cramnor

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    I think the answer to this one is a quite certain no, for the easy reason that the tracks are not modeled as tracks but as scenery, hence no trains can run there and it would be a massive undertake to lay the track properly there, so it won't happen unfortunately.
     
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  13. Tom Fresco

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    The Tracks are real und useable, but i think even if there would be an overground /WCML Route someday, layering is highly unlikely, due to DTGs nonexistent history of layering newer stock on older routes.
     
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  14. Tank621

    Tank621 Well-Known Member

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    Didn't West Somerset come out before NTP and TVL and their associated loco add-ons?
     
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  15. IsambardKingdomBrunel

    IsambardKingdomBrunel Well-Known Member

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    It's a post apocalyptic setting. 2/3 of humanity has been wiped out. London only has enough workers for the Tube services.
    Easy when you place yourself inside the deranged minds of DTG.
     
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  16. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    Bakerloo is clearly set on a Easter Sunday and the WCML is closed for track work with rail replacement bus services.
    The Bakerloo line is it self running a reduced service due to industrial action.

    As I said just a normal Sunday occurrence on UK rail networks
     
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  17. Quentin

    Quentin Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I was trying to get 'up north' over Easter, but the WCML is more or less shut (in various places) over the weekend. We used to look forward to trainspotting on bank holidays, as there'd be plenty of 'foreign' specials running to seaside resorts etc. Now there are no trains at all :(.
     
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  18. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    They can even give us what we paid for, let alone extra
     
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