I think it´s the best route by far from them. I would give it a chance in a sale. The views are really great.
My main issue remains that it's only just over half of the actual route. Maybe in a deep sale, at least 60% off.
This is unfair, because it is not only Rivet who is not fixing even these small bugs (small bugs with large impact to gameplay). Wrong or missing speed boards are in most of German routes (Maintalbahn is the worst), and DTG never fixed it.
I didn‘t say it’s only Rivet- but on this route it’s especially noticeable. And if someone makes such a gift and makes a whole list on the correct bords, it’s double the shame it hasn’t been fixed until now
To be fair, a full trip is already 80-100 minutes; the complete route would be like 140-160? But yeah, the whole route would be amazing! Especially since the missing part is more beautiful in my opinion; since streets, houses and cars don’t look tooooo great in TSW, it would have been cooler to leave put the street running sections and make something like St. Moritz- Poschiavo :/
As I said- it’s definitely not an issue and I would also love to see the route! But I guess many people don’t want to sit down für 2-2,5 hours for a single ride. Yes, you can use the pause button but in this case the usage of a few services split into two parts would be better I guess
DTG Alex what is even the purpose of these feedback threads if this is the answer you get from Rivet? (and no, i am not a rivet hater)
Tried it but refunded. The Allegra has some very strange physics aberrations, velocities going bananas when you reduce the cruise control speed setting. Simugraph probably having a meltdown. On the first "proper" Journey run got a SPAD at the crossing loop beyond Alp Grum despite having two green dots on the approach signal. And yes it looks nice, so much better than the TSC version but I still just couldn't in the end excise from my head, it's only half the route really.
Has anyone noticed the SiSte acknowledge buttons? There are 2 of them, located on both far sides of the desk. And there is an enabling switch on the front panel. In real life, do train drivers need to reach their hands that far to the button to acknowledge each alert? Is there any pedal for it under the desk?
In game one of these two buttons is to activate Siste, the other one is to use it. This was done because the switch to activate the Siste irl is behind a small door at the back which wasn’t modelled. On pc we have the keyboard combination to activate them but since they don’t exist on console it was done this way. Now for the Irl question I’m not 100% sure but I think that the Allegra has a pedal as like all other locos made in the last 60 years.
The main gripes I have so far is that 1) the distance to next stop is as-the-crow-flies rather than actual distance (which is more obvious with TSW5's barber pole) which isn't so useful with the zig-zags of the track (I could've sword that at least in other routes or TSW release it was based on actual rail distance), and 2) when riding the actual train you can look back to the valley lake (Lago di Poschiavo) to get your bearings or sense of distance as the train zip-zags up the hillside but in TSW5 the lake doesn't seem to be visible/rendered (I presume from being too far away).
The crow flies thing is on all routes, it's really annoying when you think you're running ahead of time only to discover you've just driven within a mile of your next station before looping another 3 miles back round to it.
yeah, that's always been a bug bear. it's saying you're 1.3 miles from your next objective point but you look at the map and with all the twists and turns it's more like 130 miles lol
On PS5 the “Running Around” scenario chapter has triplicates of the “R5601: Poschiavo Morning Shunt” (the first 2 and the third is around the midpoint of the list). The third has fog no not exactly the same, but there's no worthwhile difference between the first two.
Having just rebought this in the sale, doing the Photo Shoot scenario just had a SPAD at Stablini. Green advance warning for the home signal, home signal at green but no distant/vorsignal lights under the main aspect straight onto a red at the exit signal. Edit: Well the next crossing loop the setup seemed to be the same, no advance warning of the exit signal aspect though luckily this time it was green. Which got me thinking and maybe someone can confirm, before I condemn Rivet and DTG, is this actually prototypically correct on the Bernina Line? That is, drivers have to enter the crossing loop expecting the exit signal at red without any pre warning. If so, that should be made clear in the route introduction and documentation, if there is any.
Anyhow, having now driven the route the whole way from Ospizio to Tirano I have to say I’m actually quite pleased with it. Rivet did a pretty good job of things and while obviously not 100% true to life, it was enough to convince me I was on the Bernina Line. Which of course only makes it more the pity they didn’t go the full distance into St Moritz or even Pontresina. Would be great if they were working on a V2.0 which added that (plus maybe the Samedam “triangle”) and one of the 4x or 5x railcars. I would Day One that. Sadly this route either came out before it was a thing or Rivet didn’t bother, but really needs reverb in the tunnels etc. Also the flange squeal on the sharp curves is a bit restrained. When I travelled across the Bernina Line it was very much in your face (ears) as the train ground its way through the almost continuous curvature. As regards the Allegra, well it’s very much autopilot driving, with the speed control even holding you on descent. Not sure if some physics changes were quietly made but I didn’t seem to get the cavitating which I’m sure was there when I originally tried the route. Sounds, well as always with Rivet you get what you get, convinced I could hear a bit of the IOW 484 in there… However from being very anti this route I have recanted and can recommend (with the caveats above) certainly at sale price. Would overall go 7.5/10. Jasper_Rivet get the St Moritz extension and an older electric Railcar done and I’ll push that to 9.5/10!
They also need to get the texture and additional bit of modeling from underneath the tank car sorted as well. As its been like that sine they released it. Hentis
OldVern I second this review. I always said this was is one the best routes in TSW and Rivet should build more. But it looks like, it won´t ever happen. It´s clear that they now support DTG in routebuilding without the name "Rivet" beeing mentioned... I guess that´s the new way of doing things because of the bad reputation.
The other thing Rivet do well is interesting scenarios. Just started the one where you first have to ride a train into Poschiavo, then pick up your Allegra and couple to some freight wagons before working the service down to Tirano.
They also did a good job on the railroad signaling for a road crossing, like in Campocologno. The only problem is that the barrier is already down for you when you leave Tirano :-( I have seen it work only once (and that was in the service from a stream from trainsimulatordriver), where another train towards tirano made the barriers go down. Would be so nice if this got fixed, same in Brusio and other stations
