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Yes, that exactly is my point. Nothing is part of their testing routine.

 

only takes an odd second, more engagement rather than automatic is better.

 

So, if safety systems don't work on console because no-one thought about it during development and it didn't get tested does that mean i get a discount if I buy it on Xbox?

After all, I'm not getting the full functionality compared to the pc version.

 

Well, you would think they would pull it and fix it, but yes there is a 10% discount for pre-orders, for XB I don't know.
That's about all they will do...

 

There's a 10% discount for buying it for pc on steam too. That version gives you access to the safety systems like all the other trains currently available on pc and console.

It's a shame as i watched the stream and was tempted to buy (on console) as it looked different but if the console version has limited functionality because no-one thought about it during development of testing I think I'll save my money.

 

This is really poor. And some PC players (like me) prefer to play with a controller, so that's a lost sale until it's fixed, Rivet. Shame because it actually looks pretty good otherwise.

If DTG cared about their console players they'd refuse to publish it until it's fixed imo.

 

Fully agree

 

No there won't be discounts just because certain features are missing. Has never been a discount since it still takes the same amount of time and resources to create dlc regardless of platform

 

Which other DLC has been released where consoles have less functionality than pc's?

The choice i have is to either buy it now for the 10% discount and hope it possibly, may be fixed in a few months (if ever) or to not buy the console version which obviously hasn't been tested or thought it in development.

I'm guessing it won't get fixed before the 10% discount ends.

 

Well there's layers for one. Last gen don't get certain layers but that's because there are limitations within the hardware itself so don't think it would really count.

 

there won’t be anything on Xbox, very out of the ordinary if there was.

 

nope

more on rivet to hold, if DTG held then it would be them against rivets moves, doesn’t look good if one says go and the other stop, especially not on side of console…

Probably several, bugs tend to be different per platform quite regularly.

 

Yeah, I did not think so, But those that are on XB can hope maybe just this once and that is just Wrong to do that, if any discount is given, give it to all.

 

it’s on Microsoft I think for that.

 

That is something I did not look into, but that is where DTG can step up and work with Microsoft if they really wanted to.

 

Microsoft are probably a bit more bureaucratic on that rather than inviting DTG round for a cup of tea and a chat DTG probably have about as much chance to convince as us.

 

Yeah, get some crumpets and crumb cake, but yeah seeing how MS does things, I would have to agree with you.

 

Question to console players,

how do you turn on the AWS on consoles for the MML HST? I can only activate it by keyboard on PC.
How did Skyhook solve this on console, as there wasn't a complaint?

 

GWE HST is on the right side of the console, in front of the second man’s seat if that helps.

 

I'm talking about the MML HST. Before the update the switch on the left side (that sets the saloon lights to dim/bright on the GWE HST) was used to toggle AWS. That got removed (as it was wrong), so now you only have DSD and DVD switches in the MML HST cab, but no AWS/TPWS switch.

So while I can use the keyboard to activate it - how does this work on consoles then?

I'm asking because it's related to the Allegra safety systems issue on consoles.

Edit: Forget it . It's a combination of the "Spare" switch and the "Vigilance" switch that enables AWS... not obvious.

 

So what we saying? It's not worth the full price?

 

That is very subjective. My own opinion is that offering 60% of the actual Bernina Line gives a very degraded experience and the Allegra I would not put as my first choice of train for the route.

If it had been the full route with the Allegra then, Rivetism's considered, might have been a Day One or at least Week One purchase.
The route as is, but with the older railcars and suitable coaches, then yes could probably have counted me in.
But 60% of the route, a modern bland train and what looks to be still patchy route building skills at Rivet relegates this to a minimum of a half price sale, for me.

 

Trust Rivet to bog up another route. Feel sorry for the xbox players. Rivet please leave route designing to the professionals and concentrate on what you are better at, locomotives.

Certainly not worth £29.99

 

With the 10% discount til release, it's $35.99=36.00
but when looking at
Train Sim World® 4: Berninalinie: Tirano - Ospizio Bernina Route Add-On Price history · SteamDB
Some are paying, even more, because of the exchange rates and taxes in their respective countries I take it, well those who do purchase.

 

It’s £29.99 on Xbox as there is no pre-order discount.

 

I'd need to be paying $41.83 with 10% off in Poland, and as we know Poland is a very rich country, where people can afford to be paying much more than the rest of EU, not.

 

I guess it's just the price that Xbox user get a deal in a way, now for functionality well that is another matter, and why I moved to PC.

That is shameful and disgusting the way countries do more to hurt the people than to help.

 

Do the achievements actually work or is this going to be another half ass dlc

 

They’re certainly not good at trains either! Most of the sounds seem to be reused off the FLIRT, with the traction motors still sounding with no power/brake applied either…

 

sounds like Poland would need it own currency for it to be cheaper or this kind of product isn’t exactly suited to that countries market.

otherwise it wouldn’t make sense to be paying less/more in one EU country than another as it’s the same value. (Which it is that route in this case)

it’s the same case for America, all states have a different average income, certain prices vary by state, but all use the same currency and would pay the same price for this dlc.

 

Poland does have its own currency. The Zloty. Poland is in the EU but not the Eurozone. There's constant talk of adopting the Euro but no concrete plans.

 

Wonderful... No doubt the usual excuses will get trotted out about how difficult it is to get access or reference material.

 

appreciate the knowledge, I figured it had already changed a while ago. The other user compared it to the neighbour countries which is probably also why I figured it was the same.

 

They did record a real allegra

 

Then there is a discrepancy with what 4-COR reported a few posts back.

 

No, not quite. Each state has Its own sales tax system and rates so the overall price for a dlc will vary somewhat, depending on where you live.

 

in some places, the Sales Tax is 3.5% but yes it all depends on the state you live in, the US that is. And some online retailers don't charge a sales tax, but that is not the case here.

 

But DTG always release a fixed $ price not one for each state, surely they wouldn’t be stating the wrong price tag ? Or is that not including tax ?

I mean I know US doesn’t like to make the tax number easily visible, but don’t see why DTG would state a price if it means it’s just going to be wrong.

 

Unlike in the UK, sales tax is added to the retail price rather than being part of it.
So if a route costs $39.99, the total price can be anywhere from $39.99 in a state with 0% tax to $43.99 if the sales tax is 10%. The average is around 5-6%.

 

In the video the first language used is Italian. German and English follow. The sequence Italian, German, English is repeated with each new announcement in the video.

"Cari passeggeri, il personale di bordo della ferrovia Retica vi da il benvenuto sul REGIO diretto a Poschiavo..."
"Dear passengers, the on-board staff of the Rhaetian Railway welcomes you on the REGIO bound for Poschiavo..."

 

Well, 4-Cor said "seems" which implies that's just his personal assessment of the sounds in the stream.

 

Did a quick search for sales and use tax in US, maybe there is a better one, but here is a start.
https://www.calculator.net/sales-tax-calculator.html

 

I probably should have known it would be that system, i remember it was discussed before on a previous thread.

 

We use separate currency on Steam since November 2017. The prices being cheaper than in EUR is usually the case for other games released on Steam. For DTG products at least released in the last 4 years and those that recently updated the prices, it's the opposite, placing our prices between Norway's and Switzerland's, and being the second most expensive (earlier the prices were generally placing between USD and EUR).

 

Im waiting for the Goblin. If it has no announcements, i buy Bernina just for the announcements

 

Not just by state, but by county within those states. A lot of vacationers from other countries get really confused when what they purchase rings up higher than what the price tag says.

I honestly wish we would just include the sales tax in the posted price like what is done overseas, but it will never happen.

 

Does county also affect online purchases from say Microsoft ?

its quite a bad system, you could literally have a different currency for each county and it wouldn’t make a difference

 

The point is to make sure you feel the tax. The European system hides it, like disguising the medicine with sugar.

 

You know, now that you ask that I'm not quite sure. I looked back at a Microsoft/Xbox receipt and they show two taxes on my order. The local tax is confusing as it doesn't match either the tax rate where my billing address is (Connecticut @ 6.35%), or Dutchess County, New York where my console lives (3.75%).


Oh well, it was it is. Death and taxes LOL.

 

From what I understand, NY is one of the worst when it comes to Taxes, but that is odd you would get taxed twice like that from two different states.
But I'm not sure the way it's done in the EU is any better, even if they roll the t axe into the price, they still charge a VAT tax, If I'm not mistaken, this is best answered by someone in the EU or even the UK now that they did the Brexit.