Upcoming Release Berninalinie: Tirano - Ospizio Bernina - Coming Soon!

Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG Alex, Jan 9, 2024.

  1. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Very impressive scenery and I wonder why there are no snowplough trains here even though they are heavily featured in real life
     
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    Rivet/DTG would have wanted another £5 to include those…
     
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    The only real difference is the price you see is the price you pay, so a £29.99 route in the UK will cost you £29.99, but the receipt will show it cost £24.99 + £5.00 Value Added Tax.

    The best comparison between US states/counties would be the different EU countries, as each country within the EU has it's own rate of VAT, so both Germany and Greece are in the Eurozone so the price all consumers pay is €35.99 but in Germany that is €30.24 + €5.75 VAT and in Greece it is €29.02 + €6.97 VAT.

    In the UK and EU pricing is much clearer for the consumer, the price you see is the price you pay, in the US pricing is clearer for the corporation selling the product, as they always get the same amount of money regardless of where the consumer lives.
     
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    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    Combining the snow build up effect with functioning snowploughs would be a pretty neat thing. Rolling Line has a system for it and it is fun.
     
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    SGTDRE Well-Known Member

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    But could they make enough snow in-game, I have yet to see any real snow accumulation in TSW___


    Thanks for the info, that is interesting though, I thought the VAT was the extra tax that was added even after a tax was rolled into the price like double tax.
     
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    New York is notorious as one of the few which assert "commuter taxation" jurisdiction (As does New York City which has an income tax of its own on top of the state tax). Most states only tax their own residents.
     
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    The US system however is much clearer for the taxpayer, because the governmen't's cut is immediately apparent.
     
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  8. driverwoods#1787

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    I agree and here's a steam snowblower used on the Bernina Route code A Steam the Xrot 9213. The video is in Swiss German

    For the Xrot 9213 to run on Bernina Line it needs a Gem 4/4 code E electro-diesel loco to run with it

    If successful the Xrot 9213 Bernina Line physics can be used to make the Vorarlberg X491
     
  9. Bravo2six

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    Probably because even in winter at the moment, they'd just be for show.
    Hopefully a core update to have snow drifts will come in with them?
     
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    So does anyone know if safety systems are able to be toggled using a keyboard on consoles?

    That’s generally how I do it on ps5 anyway, so I would hope they didn’t just remove safety systems altogether
     
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    You can use a keyboard. You just can't get up and flip switches because it's been locked away
     
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    Hello everyone,

    As shared above, we've just announced that we've been able to address the safety system functionality so that in-cab controls will work for enabling / disabling Vigilance and Safety systems, so console players will be able to utilise the functionality for the release tomorrow.

    Read our latest announcement: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/bernina-line-safety-systems.77935/
     
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  15. JonnE

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    Credit where it's due - thanks for the quick reaction and the effort spent over the weekend!
    To be honest I wasn't expecting a solution anywhere within a few weeks or months, so that's definetely a welcome surprise.
     
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    Honestly surprised and appreciative about the quick fix- i've uncancelled my pre-order.

    Thanks Rivet/DTG!
     
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  17. AtherianKing

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    good to see a quick and needed response was issued for this, credit where credits due.
     
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  18. LastTrainToClarksville

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    Is there a user manual available for this route yet?
     
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    all that can be done is take it at face value and see what is reported by the console users.
     
  20. AtherianKing

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    I don’t think theirs anything to take, the issue is resolved.
     
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    I have noticed that the preview streams to be done by the 'partners' today have not materialized. Maybe related to the late update today.
     
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    I have seen a few streams, but as mentioned in the schedule, they are not on TSW channel
     
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    I've only seen tutorial uploads so far
     
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    Yes I see that statement, the issue with the safety system has been resolved, but I have seen and heard a fair amount of times where it was "resolved" and yet there were still issues. That is why I said that. I sure hope so that it is.
     
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  26. AtherianKing

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    yea, we never know what works until it arrives.
     
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    There are some about. I have done the training run as a video, which is up on my channel. I spent 4 hours doing a service and subsequent video this afternoon for release Monday afternoon, but when I went to render the video footage my video editor decided to crash and not only delete the project I was working on but also the video capture file I was editing was corrupted. 4.5 hours work in the bin. I wasn't a happy puppy, I can tell you. I will be streaming from about 10am Tuesday morning. From what I played on the PC I think the route looked lovely.

    Hentis
     
  28. paintbrushguy

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    I’m slightly confused with the console solution to safety systems. The ZSI acknowledge button is now the ZSI isolation switch, so how does one acknowledge it now?
    I maintain that a better workaround than toying around changing switches etc would be to have a button in the pause menu that does CTRL/Shift+ENT for consoles.
     
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    I don't understand why you are joining since the first TSW there are bugs which are at the moment that it is never repaired it does not sell my repairs only its vivet or devetail range or others all the DLC of this game we have bugs, this is the trademark of the game which is renamed Sim World bug
     

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