Route Blackpool Branches - Feedback Thread

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  1. LawrenceNL

    LawrenceNL Well-Known Member

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    Can confirm this is an issue on the Steam version too.
     
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  2. KMAN

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    I have used these sites in the past when looking for old Timetables:-
    https://timetableworld.com/product/british-rail-1986-05-great-britain/
    https://www.transportpasttimes.co.u...il-1986-full-passenger-network-timetable.html
     
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  3. deki32

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    The Class 47 at the moment has a weird problem where the main reservoir vents at an insane rate for no reason. I spawned only the loco on WSR to test out some stuff and noticed the alarm light on, compressor going crazy and brake pipe zero. Brake timings are set to air-passenger but for some reason the main reservoir is emptying non stop. Weirdly enough i can somehow release the loco brakes with a empty brake pipe. I will try to get some video footage of it. Cheers
    PS5-footage:
    https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxiIQoUw7lUsA6QT6WAnMuFCtlSPKcuUbm?feature=shared
    EDIT: After further testing it turns out the faulty DSD is the cause of the problem. The loco spawns with isolated DSD and for some reason the brake pipe stays at -0.1 until the DSD is unisolated/isolated at least once. The rate at which DSD empties the brake pipe also needs looking into. I hope this gets fixed. All of the BPO-Class 47s are affected at the moment. I hope this info helps. Cheers
     
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  4. pfearn2303

    pfearn2303 New Member

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    In the future will there be support for RailDriver controller on the Class 142?
     
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  5. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    They are working on it
     
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  6. Bravo2six

    Bravo2six Well-Known Member

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    I believe, in JTs own words "It was an unexpected but happy accident"
    I.E. wasn't the plan but when they added a 'tag', it just showed up in WCL
     
  7. JT Benedict

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    Pretty much exactly this.

    When Ed set up the RVD's it just appeared on the route.
     
  8. AtherianKing

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    just about to give the exact same feedback myself :D

    I think it would work best being changed to the same colour as the ground rather than ballast

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  9. OldVern

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    Still running well with the odd jitter and hitch but no further CTD's or BSOD.

    Just one point of detail though. Just about every freight I've seen has been hauled by a Class 47/4 ETH variant. In reality this would have been pretty rare as the ETH 47's were intensively diagrammed on passenger workings with a fairly small maintenance/spare allocation. It would have been more appropriate for the freights to be hauled by 47/0's or 47/3's. This also goes for some of the seasonal passenger workings or relief trains, in 1986 anything with none air conditioned or dual heat stock could have been headed by a 47/0, in the heating season boiler fitted to provide steam heat.
     
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  10. meridian#2659

    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

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    Did you couple the right way? For me the entire set 2 + 2 works fine with the guard panel. Coupling requires to press the couple button. You hear when its done.
     
  11. Taihennami

    Taihennami Well-Known Member

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    Amplifying this: shunting one Pacer into another engages the mechanical coupling only. Pressing the Couple button in one of the facing cabs makes the electrical connections, which allows control signals to be sent from one unit to the other. You're supposed to do a "pull away" test between the two to make sure the mechanical connection is secure.
     
  12. AtherianKing

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    I think I heard it was something to do with the way Rivet set up the class 150

    I wonder if that’s what got the Brown Skipper livery to be made :)

    very happy regardless it’s on their though, hopefully it will be able to see TVL one day too ;)
     
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  13. Volvo B10M

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    It looks like 142050 somehow managed to sneak on the Provincial Leyland/SCG ID numbering list.

    While tinkering about with a bunch of BGs, a 20, 31, 40, and a 47 over on the parcels platform at Preston the other day I spotted 142050 come in to Preston on a service for Blackpool North, knowing this one was the only one built with Voith T211r and never to have been equipped with an SCG box (hence why the unit IRL was missing the gearbox EP valve box underneath) I rushed over to get it thinking it would have the Leyland TL11 & Voith combination but it had an SCG transmission instead.
     
  14. JetWash

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    Just regarding the snow, I was about to mention the exact same thing. Something isn't right with the texture on the tracks, in that it doesn't appear to react to ambient light. Here's a shot of the ECML with Ground Snow full, and another with Blackpool-Preston. Could you take a look at it, it rather spoils what is otherwise a lovely Winter scene.

    ps Also, I suspect this is a DTG thing but it would be nice if you could fix it, on 12th December the route defaults to 100% Autumn tree, so all the trees are fully leafed. Realistically Autumn Tree should be at 0% and Winter Tree appox 80% from early-ish November. I believe in DTG world 'Winter' doesn't start until the 1st January.

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  15. graham.haddon

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    I must say I'm really enjoying the first batch of Class 47 journey mode runs on the Blackpool route. They have been set up beautifully and a few stops have been integrated mid run to make you work around the traffic. Brilliant.
     
  16. andyward1971

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    Sorry if this has been mentioned already. Noticed on the class 101 that the rear exterior lights are showing white even though the switches are on red. This was on the train I was driving and also a ai train.
     
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    Shame it couldn't have happened to the tees valley line.
     
  18. JT Benedict

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    Tees valley wasn't made with substituons in mind as the only thing the 101 could have subbed with at the time was the 101 for NTP.
     
  19. Bravo2six

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    Is there any possibility of getting the Pacer to cover for TVL in timetable then? Or would that have to be a DTG Alex (or equivalent) request? :)
     
  20. GTAGamer245

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    I got notified that the "Pace Yourself" achievement on Xbox had been fixed as someone earned that achievement yesterday but it's still broken for me. What am I doing wrong?
     
  21. DampWool

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    Service OP02 issue:
    Has anyone managed to complete this service? To find this service you must select 08744 from the list of 08's.
    I always get stuck waiting for signal PN141 to clear. The signal is protecting loco 47523 but this train has no scheduled service so it will never move out of the way.
    All the other services for this gronk (08744) work ok.
    Also I did not receive the achievement for completing all scenarios?
    I'm on PC
     
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  22. Spikee1975

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    Not finished it yet, but I am sure deleting this train which is too long for the siding will enable you to finish that service. Delete that train before doing anything else. It's blocking AI movement that later blocks you.

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  23. kelsound

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    Still working great for me on ps5, many ps5 releases seem to have something majorly wrong on ps5 but this one is very good and really enjoying the route. I did notice the parcel BRUTES are in grey these were mostly blue as I recall with some red ones used excluesively (I presume) by Royal Mail. They made great end of platform seats for spotters in the 70s and 80s although I seem to recall I did see one venture onto the tracks at Birmingham New St once
     
  24. steve08

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    1. No closing alarm
    2. Local door closes with the others when I press close.
     
  25. Taihennami

    Taihennami Well-Known Member

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    Those behaviours are correct for the type and era. Hustle alarms were a relatively recent introduction - noting that slam-doors without any central control or locking were still the normal type on most trains at the time.

    To keep the local door open, you have to press the Local Open button at the same time as, or immediately after, the Close button. That's correct according to contemporary operating manuals.
     
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  26. Jpantera

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    Most TSC DLC seems to have closing alarms regardless of era, your right though they didnt exist on anything in the 80s on BR. The only way you knew the doors were open was if outside seeing the orange light or door buttons illuminate or inside saw the buttons illuminate. Or you were stood next to the guard.
     
  27. JT Benedict

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    We've done it so if you press the local open button when the doors are open it simulates you pressing both buttons.
     
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  28. richtayls

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    I wonder if they went with that because in the real world 'winter' doesn't start until 23rd December, but the weather outside is increasingly rubbish at following the calendar.
     
  29. joffonon#1689

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    You could have ended that sentence at 'rubbish'.:(
     
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  30. kelsound

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    Still think this route is one of the best if not the best , however I previously reported issues with the in cab sound on the class 47, at 1st thought it was my setup however it has persisted and the same with the class 20. I'm on PS5 , both the 20 and 47 seem fine ticking over with or without the window open but as you accelerate I'm getting really bad in cab engine sound distortion on both locos although the 20 is much worse and 'unplayable'. Outside view sounds are normal, sounds seem ok on the class 40 and 45
     
  31. kelsound

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    Totally agree North Wales coast but 1981ish as there was still the down slow in use between Prestatyn and Rhyl and a class 25 would be nice on that route. Freight was still ok on that route in the early 80s with container, stone,chemicals, nuclear waste, newspapers, MGR coal to Point of Ayr, Coal to Colwyn Bay low level yard (before the A55 was built on it) and livestock only finished in the late 70s with ex LMS type cattle wagons.
     
  32. Crosstie

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    Must say I'm really enjoying the route.
    Couple of points: the 142 is really a rollercoaster, hard to believe it moves that much up and down. Passengers must have gotten seasick. Also there seems to have been an umbrella shortage in Lancashire back in 1986. ;)
     
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  33. jack#9468

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    Just imagine those poor souls who had to rely on them for their daily commute.
     
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  34. graham.haddon

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    The brakes become stronger the slower the unit goes as per reality with tread type brakes.
     
  35. graham.haddon

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    Just noticed this whistle board lying down on the Burn Naze branch. Also the track as you enter is a 20mph speed limit that suddenly drops to 15 mph with no warning neither on the hud nor line side signage. Thank you.
     
  36. dhekelian

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    Was thinking of getting back into TSW and buying TSW4 because of this route. Saw it on YT and looks really good. Even though I had never been on a pacer was looking forward to having a go. (Love the 101). Just about to purchase when I saw RD isn't available for it. Deal breaker for me but I hope you are going to put it on soon? Could I ask why you left it off? Did it conflict with something?

    Any chance of you doing the mighty 'Bubble Car' in the near future?
     
  37. Sharon E

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    JT said that they just forgot to implement it and it should be in the first patch that is now in testing. I am also waiting for the Rail Driver before buying.
     
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  38. Taihennami

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    A lot of minor branch lines (and truncated secondary lines) that were converted to freight-only traffic ended up operating in a semi-abandoned state for a number of years before, in at least some cases, eventually being closed completely. The former Fleetwood branch, leading to Burn Naze, is precisely one of these. Signs lying askew or even fallen over completely would be expected, and I can only assume that JT left that sign like that based on contemporary evidence.

    On the subject of spurious speed limits, there are also some on the Up Slow either side of Preston station, which appear to be spillover from the various crossovers in the station approaches. The line directly through Platform 2 on the Up Slow should be 35mph throughout.
     
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  39. graham.haddon

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    As regard to the whistle board laying down I would agree with you if there wern't a combined speed limit/morpeth board lying down in Birmingham Cross City in exactly the same manner near Lichfield. Different route I know but its a strangely similar occurance.
     
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  40. DJsnapattack

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    They didn't forget to implement it. It was not a feature that DTG specified as part of the route build, therefore it was omitted. JT have listened to community feedback and are implementing compatibility through a patch.
     
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  41. MisterV

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    Has anyone found any 4-car pacer formations in timetable mode? I'm sure it was mentioned during the preview stream but I have not found any yet.
     
  42. matt#4801

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    I think I saw one pass as AI in a run I have done though haven't a clue of the time or where. It could have even been a scenario, I am not sure.
     
  43. Mark Moreton

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    forget the head code but believe it’s the 6.58 service from Preston. Also one of the very few (as in real life) to stop at Salwick.
     
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    Does anyone have a list of the nameplates for the class47 that have been made for this route?
     
  45. Bravo2six

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    2P54 Manchester Vic to Blackpool is another Salwick Service
     
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    0Z03 class 47 drive is glitched as well

    wants you to wait at token exchange and be at preston at the same time on the timetable

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  47. Taihennami

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    I think this one divides into two 2-car sets at Blackpool, then both return to Man Vic separately - so it's mostly a way to avoid a separate ECS move. Probably this is also why it runs the "Parliamentary" stop at Salwick. I saw it come in while working some other early-morning (loco hauled) services.

    For similar reasons, I would look for late-evening services for a 4-car in the other direction.
     
  48. Taihennami

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    I would chalk that one up to the local vandals.
     
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  49. R3DWolf91

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    Started the scenarios tonight, and wow, this DLC is amazing! Just Trains, when are we getting a Southern Region route with slam-door EMUs, or a Great Eastern Network Southeast route? You guys never cease to amaze!
     
  50. Craigyboy81

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    Just had a 4.9gb update :)
     
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