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Br 120 + Ic-coaches + Cab Car

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by matinakbary, Apr 23, 2021.

  1. matinakbary

    matinakbary Well-Known Member

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    As I have the feeling that the 101-DLC had the most positive feedback a (german) loco DLC ever had, I want to suggest another hero of the german long distance trains: The BR 120.

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    Before the 101 were in operation the 120 hauled together with the 103 [another great suggestion] most IC-trains in germany.

    New coaches that could come with this:

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    Bpmz: [Second class]
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    And of coure the cab car:
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  2. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Ideal suggestion (if it also includes the Bistro/Speisewagen). Especially since it would allow DTG to get out of the hole they dug for themselves with the 101 partial-train release. Although it would still irk me to have to buy two DLC just to get one complete IC train.
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    Elaine: new service layers on pre-existing routes will only happen, if they happen at all, when Adam & Co revisit them and Adam elects to do a complete timetable rebuild. They will not come with a loco DLC release (except on that loco's "home" route).
     
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  3. elaineedwards2013

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    Very good point, I understand.
     
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  4. elaineedwards2013

    elaineedwards2013 Active Member

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    But still, it would be nice to have this loco and the Cab Car. Maybe, the 101 will be able to have the Cab Car as well?
     
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  5. phips

    phips Active Member

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    I think that it would be more reasonable for DTG to just make the Loco and the Cabcar (and maybe the Bistro wouldn´t be bad either), as they already have suitable IC Cars. This would be similar to the high Entry Dosto problem, but the best solution for having a complete Intercity Set. The Set with the BR 120 and the Cabcar would be very great considering that the IC Cars can just be thrown in without much work to do and would benefit DTG and the Community that wanted the Cab Car from the beginning.

    After a Cab Car would be ready, you could update the BR 101 DLC to also feature the Cab Car, or change the formations of the Timetable Trains to having the Cab attached if you own both DLCs
     
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  6. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    This is an excellent idea because that could permit the Intercity train to be driven out of München Hbf on Haputstrecke München Augsburg without having a DB BR363 layered from RSN as a Passenger Shunter or a DB BR101 on the end to reverse the train out of München Hbf towards Augsburg. Just a heads up the restaurant carraige classified as a WRMz in North America that will be called a restaurant car
     
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  7. jolojonasgames

    jolojonasgames Well-Known Member

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    Are you sure that bicycle compartement is from a can car? It looks like the bicycle area in a conventional coach. Pictured below is the interior of an IC cab car (with the bicycle area and cab being at the end of the corridor).
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    I just happened to be in both an IC cab car and a conventional coach with bicycle compartment last summer, and this is how I remember it. I might be wrong though, as not all cab cars were built at the same time and thus might have differing interiors.

    Outside of that, this is a really good idea, and I really hope we'll see the cab car someday. The 120 is also among my favourite locos, as it's looks don't reveal the power within or it's importance as the first 3-phase locomotive to go into serial production, revolutionising motive power on the railways since.
     
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  8. grob-e

    grob-e Well-Known Member

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    Both are from cab cars, your photo is from the Bimmdzf 287,

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    while the other photo is from the Bpmmbdzf 286

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  9. Purno

    Purno Well-Known Member

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    The BR120 was one of my favourite locomotives in Train Simulator. And, in contrary to the 101, the 120 actually looks good. (Personal opinion here).

    The BR120 would probably end up in my shopping cart, as long as I already own the required route for it.
     
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    jolojonasgames Well-Known Member

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    Thanks! As said in my post I wasn't quite sure. Just out of curiosity, where do you get these diagrams, they're really interesting, and dou you know which type of cab car is more numerous (and thus more likely to be added)?
     
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    grob-e Well-Known Member

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    This is from the bahn.de Website, below the "Weitere Informationen" at the bottom at the page, there you can get a pdf.

    Well, according to this website there are 72 Bpmmbdzf and 32 Bimmdzf.
     
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    jolojonasgames Well-Known Member

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    Thanks!
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    How about the WRMz restaurant carriage remember that's also found in the formation with these cab cars and locomotive being a DB BR120 before 2020 post 2020 a DB BR101. However on Intercity line 77 WRMz DB BR101 is replaced by a Dutch NS1600 family locomotive at Bad Bentheim for Amsterdam via Amserfoot CS & Henglo.
     
  14. matinakbary

    matinakbary Well-Known Member

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    While I'd love to see the InterRegio restarant carriage, I wouldn't mind if it's not built. It's probably too much development work for too little reward. Instead I'd want them to put their recources into a cab car as everyone would benefit from that much more than from a dining car.
     
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