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Br 420 For S-bahn Rhein Ruhr (hrr And Rro)

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Ralf_2955, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Ralf_2955

    Ralf_2955 Member

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    Hello,
    As far as I know (and Wikipedia :) ), the Br 420 is back in service on this S-Bahn, since June 2014, so why not bring it to TSW?
    The Br 420 is a very old train, it's crusing around in germany since the 70s.
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    But of course it has been modernised several times, so now it looks like this:
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    With new doors, a new paintjob and a new destination panel, it will fit well on modern routes, like HRR and RRO. The Br 420 can also be used on other S-Bahn routes, like munich. With it's different sounds and cab design, it would be a nice alternative, for S-Bahn journeys.
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    It is actually available in TS, but not the modernised one and it has very few features, only the bare minimum.
    So that are my thoughts on, why this train would be awesome for TSW, I hope I could give you a good look at it and maybe, we will see it some time in the future :)

    Best wishes,
    Ralf
     
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  2. Trainzdriver328

    Trainzdriver328 Active Member

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    that's a good suggestion, but TSW wants to make the game as realistic as possible, so the BR 420 would be unsuitable for the route. it would be good for me personally if the BR 420 is on the route. today there drives the DB BR 1440.
     
  3. Huntlosen

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    And the Flirt 3xl as S9 from Bottrop to Hagen (Timetable change from 20-20-40, to 30-30)
     
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  4. kennyjamesscott

    kennyjamesscott Active Member

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    I would enjoy this a lot
     
  5. conmlr

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    BR420 is actually under construction! :love:
     
  6. DB628

    DB628 Well-Known Member

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    This Trains drives only on the S68 from Wuppertal Vohwinkel to Langerfeld for S-Bahn Rhein/Ruhr
    The rest is done on services
     
  7. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean?
     
  8. conmlr

    conmlr New Member

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    There is coming a BR420 to TSW2 soon!
     
  9. Ischollum

    Ischollum Member

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    Do you have a source for that? There is nothing on the roadmap, or will it be Freeware?
     
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    Hauptstrecke München Augsburg would be perfect for the 420! They're driving there as I'm writing this and they even got LZB now!
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  12. Lamplight

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  13. DB628

    DB628 Well-Known Member

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    This is Maik Goltz from TSG or how the name is for his Company.
    He also create for train simulator and helped DTG with TSW trains
     
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  14. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    Ah, thank you! But do we have any idea why the 4 projects he's talking about (Br 420, mainline diesel loco, switcher and a DMU/EMU for those that don't speak German) are not on the roadmap?
     
  15. DB628

    DB628 Well-Known Member

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    He said I think there is a problem with DTG and the Third Party Project to Update this things and included this on the Roadmap in the correct time
     
  16. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    Let's hope so. I'd love to finally have a German mainline diesel loco:love:
     
  17. DB628

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    It’s probably the BR 218 for Hamburg-Lübeck like on Train Simulator for this Route as separate Dlc, to have mixed Passenger Service with the BR 112 and Dostos.
    There is no other German Diesel Locomotive for the other Routes in real Life for Passenger services.
     
  18. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    I agree that a Br 218 is the most likely (I‘d say it‘s the most iconic German diesel loco after the V200). But do we know that it will be loco dlc for passenger services and not a freight loco dlc?
     
  19. DB628

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    Yes 218 is Passenger Service
    The 232 Ludmilla is Freight service or the Gravita
     
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    In the past, Ludmila often hauled passenger trains, today it is sometimes used in freight traffic or as a special train
     
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    I remember the days of Ludmilas on passenger trains - totally unnecessary, but extremely cool.
     
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  22. w.lichko

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    TSG is apparently developing a 420!!! Wow, what a great surprise! Funny how it wasn't on the roadmap. Might get added to SKA or most likely HMA. 123136092_2698096117070343_688634111870191967_o.png
     
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    Cool.
     
  24. Richard CZE

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    It is well. Now DTG needs to fix the RAM issue on the consoles. Otherwise, this DLC as an additional layer will be unusable.
     
  25. ZeenozPlays

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    Wonder how it's gonna work on consoles with the memory constraints. Unless they make it a substitution for the 423 and add no new services (Like they did with the M3), it's gonna make performance horrible.
     
  26. Br425

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    I would expect that because the game timetable already matches the real timetable of the route. And there are no new S-Bahn lines to add. Every other line ends at Pasing or at Laim and it would be kinda sad to just drive the 420 on that small section.
     
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    That would be sad. If only we could use it on other routes...
     
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    We don’t know what route it will be for yet as far as I know, or if it can substitute into other routes. I just hope that wherever it goes it works properly on all platforms.
     
  29. DB628

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    Its only München Augsburg for 420
     
  30. Maik Goltz

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    How can you know that yet? It's the train from Munich, but you cant say to the people, that it will not run on other routes. That's on me or DTG to tell at least, not you.

    I will try both variants. Substitution is a thing tat will work definetly and also makes lots of sense. Extra layers i dont have any clue yet how it can be done and if it will work. That's something to discuss with the team at DTG at a later time. The train is already in developent and it will need alot of time anayways. So dont worry yet about those things.
     
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  31. DB628

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    Because you said on Facebook you guys want included only the München version for MAG from the 420 train.
    And no S-Bahn Köln Design
     
  32. ZeenozPlays

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    That only means they included the Muchen Design, not that it can't be used on other routes.
     
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  33. DB628

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    But we need time schedules for S12 and S13 and it’s a Lot of work.
    And the S19 schedule is also not correct on Köln to Aachen
     
  34. Lamplight

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    Well, word spreads fast on the forums and that picture of a German messenger chat in some thread (can‘t remember which right now) sounded like the Br 420 would only work on HMA (or is it calles MAG?). People like to speculate (myself included) and that is unfortunately not always good thing. But this assumption was not unfounded.

    That sounds great!:)

    Edit: This is the thread I was referring to. The very first post.
     
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  35. Ischollum

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    And we need a S4 Update for you xD.
     
  36. creeperblox2710

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    According to the Train Sim World 2 Reddit, there will be a BR 420 in the game.
     
  37. ZeenozPlays

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    We’ve known this for about 2 weeks already.
     
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    Something from the Rail sim de forums. TSG is doing the 420 if you didn't know 412685-ew-hq-01-jpg.png
     
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