Hello, Can we getting also the original DB 423 Train to use from Köln Hbf to Düren for replacing the 422 train from Rhein Ruhr Osten to make it accurate
Oh, that would be great. Actually I don't own RRO, so I'm still asking myself, why there is a complete S-Bahn-route built up but no trains and services using it...
In the short term, the best that can be hoped for would be layering in the 423s from HMA, incorrect markings at all. Proper S-Bahn Koln 423s would be a separate loco DLC.
I would also like the hrr passenger locos as layers on ska as the rro 422 was a layer but not the hrr 422 & 425
Well the 422 doesn't run on ska in reality at all and the 425 is not a frequent train on ska either so that would be unrealistic. The DB S-Bahn Koln DB BR 423 should have been the correct s-bahn train added especially if the s-bahn stations were gonna be fully accessable. They should've known that the 423 was the train that ran with the amount of time it takes to research and build a route
The issue in implementing the 423 is that this rolling stock had not been released when SKA came out. HMA is a newer release. At the time, DTG essentially had 3 options: 1) Use the 422 in S Bahn livery (from HRR or RRO). 2) Use the 425 in Regio livery (from HRR). 3) Not implement S Bahn at all. Option 1 seems to be the best option available to them at the time. If DTG were to swap the 422 for the 423 at this stage, anyone who has RRO but not HMA will lose the S Bahn services on SKA, which would seem rather unfair for those people. I doubt we'll see this swapped any time soon.
I’m sure I’ve explained this to you loads of times. They don’t make all the trains that are present on a route. They pick a couple. I suppose they could have made the 423 and forgotten about the ICE 3M, then there would have been no need to use the 422. That might have made the route less interesting though.
The 423 on hma though is not the same train that would run on ska. They are technically two different trains livery wise and have a different passenger interior
They could've made the 442, ICE and the db s-bahn db br 423 and I've explained to you why they could've especially if the s-bahn stations were gonna be accessible
Good to know Whatever way they layer it (422, 423, 425) it's not going to be 100% accurate unless they decide to release a separate loco DLC specific to the route, or include an additional loco in the base layer. I'm perfectly happy with the 422 on SKA even though it's not entirely accurate, and I don't think they'll be swapping it out for the 423.
They did said that they would look to add the DB S-Bahn Koln DB BR 423 in a roadmap stream a while back so it's just a waiting gane to see when it will be added
Do 20 different trains run on ska though in reality, no. Do 20 different trains run on lirr in reality, no. Do 20 different trains run on BKL in reality, No. Do 20 different trains run on Peninsula Corridor in reality, No. Do 20 different trains run on WSR in real life, NO
You are completely missing the point. They were never going to make three trains for SKA with it being included in the base pack when they only make one or two new trains per route these days, so no matter how much you say they should have made a 423, it was never ever going to happen. You didn’t seriously think I was suggesting twenty trains for a route where only a few run did you? That would have been quite the leap from me endlessly telling you they only make one or two trains when you repeatedly suggest they should make three. What I was saying was it doesn’t matter how many trains could be made (I chose 20 as an example), DTG will only make two at a maximum. If they make any more, they release them as loco DLC. They also kindly include layers, for free, for some other trains that you might own. I bet there is someone on the forum who can name more than 20 trains that have run on WSR, so maybe not the best example for you to use.
Well, technically on SKA, yes indeed more than 20... Not speaking of HMA at all... ... Back to topic, with the policy to publish one new model and one repaint per route there was no space left for a 423 here. This is of course a bit annoying but it's nothing new and was described very transparently in the preview streams back then. Sure, back in MSTS days we sometimes got about 10 trains per route but you can't compare the models back in the days with the super-detailed masterpieces of nowadays. I don't think there are any more development resources for more than the current 1+1 model. Personally I find the empty yards, extremely boring freight runs and the bugged dispatcher for the S-Bahn services more annoying. And while I was writing that I remembered that it would be great to drive from Aachen to Köln sometime without crashing... well, a man can dream I guess.
Im suprised they couldn't recreate the crash people were experiencing on last gen consoles. I had that multiple times but ever since i got next gen, the crashes are rare. Maybe then their policy should be changed next time because it makes no sense to have a fully accessible line/stations that could be used but with the incorrect train. That's like them making the Piccadilly line but instead of adding the 73 stock, they add the 72 stock because "it's all they have"
Ntp had 3 trains and that was the base route for tsw2020. SPG had 3 trains and that is the route for tsw2. GWE had 3 trains and that was the base route for tsw2020
