Info Br101 Expert: Some Clarification

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  1. OpenMinded

    OpenMinded Well-Known Member

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    Here the brake weights of the requested waggons:
    VTG Eanos:
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    DB Zacns:
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    Habbiins (hard to read, take MAX 58t):
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    I assume you know what to do with these values?! BTW, there is quite a good tool available to calculate Brh for freight trains. You can find it here:
    PC - Universal Freight Calculator For German Content | Page 2 | Dovetail Games Forums

    Also, in case you want to dig a bit deeper into how freight calculation works, I highly suggest you read into this thread from some years ago:
    Guide - Riesa-dresden: Tips On Driving Freight Trains Realistically. | Dovetail Games Forums
     
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  2. Raph'

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    Many apologies about that, it is to be added in the next version of the manual. It will be worded as "how to enable PZB/LZB|SIFA" but to disable them it's simply the same thing in reverse.
    Currently no information on when that will be available though I'm afraid, I am still working on it at present.
     
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  3. Alexell

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    For freight cars - not sure.

    Thank you for the information you provided. I looked a little into the hidden pages of the calculator and another topic and got answers to many questions.

    If I understood everything correctly, for freight cars the braking weight does not depend on the braking mode. It depends on whether the car is loaded or not. And the choice of the braking mode (P or G) depends on the mass of the train and its length. And finally, the choice of the PZB mode depends on the BRH.

    I will continue to study these dependencies in order to at least finish a simpler calculator that I am making.
     
  4. vendys#6021

    vendys#6021 Well-Known Member

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    I tried the service in non expert mode with the driving car ..... and after searching for instructions on how to turn on the PZB, I go back to the locomotive to change something and then back to the driving car .... before I could do it, I was four minutes late .... that seems like a pretty unprofessional way to do it :|
     
  5. deadbird

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    Well yeah that just makes sense irl the safety systems are always on and the driver doesnt have to walk back and forth to activate them. You can just activate expert mode and disable the fault system if thats why youre not using it already. That way you start with the safety systems and dont have to walk for 4 minutes.
     
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  6. OpenMinded

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    What, no... In order to enable the safety systems on the cab car you dont have to go back to the loco. They are not remotely steered from back there!
     
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    I don't know, other than activating the system on the locomotive didn't activate the safety systems on the driving car...
     
  8. VanDooooom

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    Is it possible to drive the 101 Expert over a Dosto Cab Car? Can't get it working in Formation Designer
     
  9. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    sorry to bother with maybe a simple question, but still... with release of Koln Aachen timetable, I have revisited both the OG 101 and the expert version a bit... and I noticed sth that maybe BR 101 has different, and wanted to ask if this is supposed be that way

    I know well that to reset the AFB after exiting LZB, you basically "slam" the AFB lever to zero and back to desired speed... as for throttle, on ICEs and 146.2 (havent checked other locos with LZB) you can leave the throttle as it is and dont have to zero it, once you reset the AFB lever, you get back to power... but on OG 101 and Expert 101 (and since it is on Expert, I assume thats the definitive version of things), you also have to reset the throttle... is that how it is supposed to be, like sth thats different on 101? :) thx
     
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    IRL, if both are set to ZWS, it should work. Whether it does in the game IDK.
     
  11. solicitr

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    Safety system on/offs for the cab car are in a cabinet on the back wall (PZB), and on the wall right beside that (Sifa)
     
  12. cwf.green

    cwf.green Well-Known Member

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    I can't speak to how the ICE/146 does it IRL but as for the BR101 what is simulated in game is prototypical.
     
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  13. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    interesting, so it is indeed different and you also have to reset the throttle in BR 101 Expert... I remember that in-game on ICEs you can leave throttle as it is and just do the AFB lever reset thing and the power comes back on afterwards... thx for the answer, I just wanted to make sure I know, since I havent driven 101 or Expert in a looong time :)
     
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  14. solicitr

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    I suspect they're all a little different; on the Vectron you just have to click the "Speed Confirm" and you're good.
     
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  15. razmatus#2517

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    yep, Vectron has it like you get it to zero, confirm, then slam it back, confirm, and you dont have to touch throttle, and as soon as you complete the AFB lever reset, throttle comes back on... so I guess 101 is indeed different in this aspect :)
     

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