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Brighton/eastbourne To London Victoria/bridge (southern/thameslink/gatwick Express)

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Huntlosen, May 28, 2020.

  1. Huntlosen

    Huntlosen Member

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    Hello, I would like to propose the route Brighton/Eastbourne to London Victoria/Bridge. The route is characterized by its diversity and its operation. Within London, as well in the southern surrounding area, there is always a high volume of trains. I think this route could inspire a lot of people, because with it every player could be satisfied. Old trains meet modern ones. There are shorter connections (London Victoria-London Bridge) and journeys up to 90 min (London-Eastbourne). It`s driven slowly and for most up to 90mph. There are nummerous famous railway stations and sights along the route. There are numerous of tasks, from shunting to run freight trains along the route and the express trains (Gatwick Express).

    Why DTG should build this route?

    1. Players want longer routes (with ECW from London to Eastbourne about 70 miles)
    2. Players want variety
    3. Most part of the route and some trains has already been developed for the TS and could serve as help (London to Brighton Route 50 miles, South London Network Route 25 miles, old Gatwick Express, class 455/8 EMU and class 377(ECW)). New without help would only be to build the line between Wivelsfield and Lewes and the short part from Redhill to Reigate. New Trains are Thameslink class 700, Gatwick Express class 387 and Southern class 313.
    4. There is no train division in the game as it is carried out every half hour in Haywards Heath
    5. Impressive overhauls and parallel journeys of suburban trains

    Timetable:
    Southern:
    • Brighton - London Victoria am: 5:29; 5:39; 6:09; 6:39; 7:09; 7:39..........pm: 10:39; 11:13
    • Eastbourne/Preston Park - London Victoria/Bridge
    1. Eastbourne: am: 4:56; 5:20; 6:06; 6:35; 7:06; 7:35........pm: 9:35; 10:06
    2. Preston Park: am: 5:56; 6:25; 6:55; 7:25; 7:55......pm: 9:55; 10:25
    • Three Bridges - London Victoria am: 5:22; 6:04; 6:34; 7:34..........pm: 10:04; 22:34
    • Reigate Station - London Victoria am: 6:30; 7:06; 7:30; 8:00.........pm: 10:31;11:02
    • Purley - London Victoria/Bridge am: 5:11; 5:52; 6:09; 6:19; 6:28; 6:39; 6:49; 6:58; 7;09......
    • South and East Croydon - London Victoria/Bridge
    • Norwood Junction - London Bridge am: 6:02; 6:15; 6:45; 7:15.....pm: 10:45; 11:25
    • Norwood Junction - London Victoria am: 5:21; 5:49; 6:19; 6:59; 7:28..............pm: 10:28; 10;58
    • Crystal Palace - London Bridge am: 5:53; 6:23......pm: 10:53; 11:24
    • Selhurst/Balham - London Victoria/Bridge
    • London Victoria - London Bridge am: 6:20; 6:50....... pm: 11:20; 11:56
    Thameslink:
    • Brighton - London Bridge am: 0:04; 4:12; 5:06; 5:25; 5:55; 6:12; 6:25; 6:42...
    • Three Bridges - London Bridge am: 1:41; 2:15; 2:41; 3:15.......5:27; 5:43; 6:13; 6:43; 7:13...
    Gatwick Express:
    • Brighton - London Victoria
    • Gatwick Airport - London Victoria
    GWR:
    • Gatwick Airport - Reigate

    The timetables are only an overview for what is possible. Only for one direction, but I think with a complete Timetable more than 500 rides could be possible. When it is not this route, I hope one day we get a track, with a complex timetable like this.
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  2. MetrolinkF125#916

    MetrolinkF125#916 Well-Known Member

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    I think this might be a good route, maybe, If DTG wants to extend the current route, we can get this!
     
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  3. Huntlosen

    Huntlosen Member

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    • - Route Guide London Victoria to Brighton
    • - Route Learning London Victoria to Brighton
    • - Route Learning East Croydon to London Bridge
    • -Thameslink Driver`s Eye Brighton to Bedford
     
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  4. railway12

    railway12 Active Member

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    Nice proposal. Also very well structured with timetables, maps and videos.
     
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  5. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    Ties in nicely with my suggestion of the North Downs Line which could end up seeing a direct connecting set of routes, all the way from Eastbourne to Reading and into various London stations (Paddington, Victoria and London Bridge).
    Please, please, please DTG.
     
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  6. Plastic Pal

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    I must admit that this package of routes, which you can mostly get on TS1 for about £12 in total (South London Network plus London-Brighton).... is utterly fantastic as a simulation (on TS1).

    But I am not sure that TSW is designed to deal with Victoria station, where you can get maybe get ten 8/12 car formations running paralled to each other.... (although this traffic is modelled in TS1).
     
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  7. Tay95

    Tay95 Well-Known Member

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    Loving this suggestion
     
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  8. johnjohn190690

    johnjohn190690 Active Member

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    Yes would love this route to come into TSW2
     
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  9. uvm0902

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    Now for me this is the most desirable route for the UK. I kindly ask Dovetail Games to include it in the roadmap.
     
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  10. Rail Runner

    Rail Runner Well-Known Member

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    There is so much potential. I would have said that because there are so many routes to London Bridge, I would have just stayed with London Vic.
    Thameslinks and other services would still be able to operate to Norwood or East Croydon depending on the service, but I think that it would become slight too big for the branches to London Bridge.
    Maybe if it was an extension?
    I would absolutely buy this the moment it came out. But like you said, it would have to include Keymer Junction to Lewes just so that it made the triangle along with the ECW.
     
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  11. johnjohn190690

    johnjohn190690 Active Member

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    Yeah I've noticed this also in the short time I've been on these forums is how much people would love this route to be added into TSW2. It's not the longest route tbh and it's got a variety of stock running on it.
     
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  12. Rail Runner

    Rail Runner Well-Known Member

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    I couldn’t agree more. It can be a very intense service what with the Thameslinks and the Southern services both Suburban and the Mainline services. The freight is intensive too:
    Newhaven Marine has a train a day, Newhaven Town Yard has a train per day, Crawley New Yard has several per day, and Purley has a train most days.
    There are also movements like Class 73 services ie driver training and RHTT services. They can basically do what they want with this route DLC wise because there are so many to chose from.
    Even if they didn’t add the Class 387 for Gatwick Express services, you could just Re livery a Class 377, and then just use that for the odd service.
     
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  13. johnjohn190690

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    Exactly so much choices and services with new thameslink trains aswell with 465 networkers which are in planning phase of the road map so more timetable services hours upon hours of drive time which I always look for, its the one mode I enjoy the most in TSW2 is Timetable Services and this line will be mayhem but also enjoyable.
     
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  14. Sam50i

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    Fantastically written ! I would love this !!
     
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  15. dasmith1

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    Ore,Hastings and Eastbourne need to be complete different stations instead of 1 whole station for it to happen. Really like the idea.
     
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  16. Rail Runner

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    Station? I’m not sure what you mean.
    Do you mean that the services to Hastings and Eastbourne shouldn’t all terminate at Eastbourne?
     
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  17. dasmith1

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    Considering on the route that all 3 stations are different where a extention could be possible as it doesn’t really make sense to do a Ore and Hasting service to terminate at Hastings.
     
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  18. Rail Runner

    Rail Runner Well-Known Member

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    Oh I see what you mean.
    Yes I totally agree.
     
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  19. no123

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    And they should make 442
     
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  20. Rail Runner

    Rail Runner Well-Known Member

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    Would be nice. But probably better on a more modern Waterloo line
     
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  21. brightonbuses20

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    Great idea. let’s hope DTG sees this!
     
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  22. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    If the North Downs Line were added as well, we would end up with a mega route from Paddington and Victoria via Reading, Guildford, Redhill and Brighton to Seaford and Eastbourne. Lots of interesting types operated on the North Downs Line over the years from locomotive hauled to DEMU, 1st generation DMU, Class 165/166 to the latest Class 769 tri mode converted from Class 319 Thameslink units.
     
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