It doesn't need expanding, the route itself is complete. All that's needed is the 700/1 to make it feel more alive south of Gatwick.
This fact in itself is typical of what is wrong with TSW’s architecture. There should only be one loco model in the TSW core per sub class, and buying a route that has services for it should just unlock it for use. Who in their right mind would create a situation where there are potentially dozens of versions of one loco? Oh yeah, DTG. Rolling stock should be a part of the core and completely decoupled from routes; you update the 66 and all services on all routes that use it benefit. Here we are in 2024 and they’re *still* doing it.
Yep it's frankly idiotic. Keep everything the same apart from different skins. All of the class 66 should be the same, but they aren't Different ToD setup, different physics, different audio.
A weird approach really, as they just create extra work for themselves. In the case of the Class 66, a one size fits all would be beneficial, unless there are distinct changes.
it will need expanding then if you want to add the 700/1 as at present they would only go as far as East croydon and that is NOT a terminus for thameslink. You would need to expand it to London Bridge if you wanted to make it realistic.
So first we blame 8th generation consoles. Then we blame modders. It's no wonder that DTG gets away with not bothering, with so many people rushing to provide them with excuses. This is getting to be an endless circle following every complaint raised by a TSW player, and one that I think DTG are quite happy to keep going.
I don’t see how DTG can’t implement mods or workshop. Planet coaster you can download mods from the steam workshop on console. So surley DTG could work something out.
Nobody is blaming modders, they have just filled a need and shown what is evidently possible on PC. It is DTG themselves who indirectly blame the lesser consoles for not adding services to L2B (not enough memory).
I agree, this might be controversial but I think DTG should have done 2 separate editions of TSW, one for pc and one for consoles and kept them apart. I for one feel miffed that I'm paying for a game that is being held back solely for console players lacking enough memory. BML and NY could have been so much better with the necessary additions. I bet if that happened and console players saw how much they were missing out on they'd go out and get a pc or gaming laptop pretty fast, at least the serious ones.
Whether Dovetail likes it or not, last gen simply has to go. Imagine if TSW CSX Heavy Haul or TS2017 were released on Xbox 360 and PS3. It would massively had held those games back. We are now at the stage with last gen now with TSW4 as were would have been with Xbox 360 when TSW CSX Heavy Haul launched. Games don't need to be on last gen to sell well. Look at Marvel's Spider Man 2 or Starfield. They are both exclusive to current gen consoles and they still sold well. I know Dovetail does not have unlimited money like microsoft, but it feels like last gen is being kept unnecessarily. If last gen went away, all that time spent optimizing routes could be used to fix all the outstanding issues with those routes. Nearly every route ever released for TSW has had outstanding issues ever since launch *cough cough brighton passengers cough cough boston signals cough cough nyt timetable*. Most of these issues are partly related to last gen, like the NYT freight. Even ones that aren't, the developers that waste time with last gen would instead be able to fix all these outstanding issues. If last gen is to continue, it shouldn't hold the game back for PC and next gen players. That would be like Microsoft removing features from Windows to accomadate older PC's. It just should not happen. Personally I believe the reason it took so long to get the editor was because DTG was concerned about console players feeling left out, thus hurting sales of future games in belief that PC players are getting special treatment, when actually if anything, last gen consoles are getting special treatment. They need to go. TL;DR, Last gen holds back next gen
Exactly. Pc users have to keep computers up to date to run modern released games and gpus and cpus don’t come cheap so why should console players hold everyone else back. take planet zoo for example that’s releasing next month and will only work on Xbox series and ps5 because older consoles can’t run it.
To be precise, gen 8 (8 -12 GB ram) and Series S (10GB ram) are holding TSW back. The PS5 and Xbox Series X have both 16 GB ram.
the 10gb of ram in a series S wont be holding it back as it. It is the hardware in the Gen 8 that are holding it back.
Series S and X are both way more than capabile of being "ramped up" with the sim it is the series 8 and Ps4 that are holding back the sim
and i am sure the 8gb on a ps4 and lets not go into a xbox 360 ram played a MAJOR part in that as well
Any remaster has to include a schedule layer for the 700. The dream of the mega-route would be to really push the tech limits, but probably excludes totally-new London terminal stations -- London Bridge just isn't gonna make it in here. In One Giant Package: Remastered London Commuter: London Vic to Brighton (existing services) Remastered East Coastway: Brighton to Eastborne, Seaford branch (existing services) New Track (must have) East Coastway London Branch (Keymer Junction to Lewes) New Track (nice to have) Tattenham Corner branch Caterham branch More services Class 700 Thameslink layer (Brighton to north of London, services as far as East Croydon) Player-operable services Lon Vic to Eastbourne Other updates Updated Gatwick Airport scenery Then sell the whole updated thing as a bundle that includes the 313 and the 700, and bob's your uncle. DTG, please take my money. I want to know most of all whether or not current tech can even handle this, and DTG have repeatedly said on stream that this is not a straightforward proposal at all (likely because if it were they'd have done it already). If not, I'm going to guess that it's just not very good business to spend the effort. Something tells me that perhaps only PC users with the very latest hardware might be able to handle this kind of memory and CPU horsepower requirement....meaning that it'll be no use to a significant portion of the user base.
All I want is more branches for BML. Everytime I say the following everyone jumps down my neck about the number of services. Quite frankly BML is a boring route. Especially with no layers. Yes there is a 1 station variation on the stopping pattern of some of the GX services yes some SN services end at TB or WF.. all the stoppers end at Selhurst or Balham, EC or Purley. No branch lines except Reigate which is 1 stop. They could have given us West Croydon, London Bridge if you want to push it 10 miles, Caterham, Tattenham Corner, Horsham (via Crawley). Not quite sure on when the route is set but they could have done a 377/2 & 5 for the Thameslink services. Its just boring imo London-Brighton 30 mins of emptiness Brighton-London it gets boring.
