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Calder Valley Line Length Manchester To Leeds Via Halifax Length

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  1. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Hi it's Driverwoods and I'm asking in the off topic forums to how long the Calder Valley Line is? Because the Line Wikipedia article it doesn't mention how long it is and services are mentioned. On the other hand Oberhausen-Arnhem Railway Wiki article gives it the length of 99 km. The reason why I'm asking this. Since I'm going to make a post about the Calder Valley line into the suggestion forums. Because the only Manchester to Leeds railway in the game is Huddersfield Standedge Tunnel route NTP 1983
     
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    It's my local line and I guess it's about 45 miles from Manchester to Leeds. Certainly within DTG's favoured length for routes. To greatly increase operational interest they could include the Oldham Loop which runs from Rochdale through Oldham and rejoins the Calder Valley just after Newton Heath depot. That would add around ten miles with lots of station stops. It would have to be set before 2009 though as it was converted into the Metrolink tram system that year. Well, it took them three years actually, it didn't open again until 2012. The NTP route already has the first two miles out of Manchester and there's probably a mile or so already done at the Leeds end but after 1994 Victoria station was changed quite dramatically so modernising it in the game would mean a new station.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for telling me and I'm wondering what trains were used in the 1980s for Calder Valley Line.
     
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    0623tu301182.jpg This is a class 110 dmu at Slattocks between Moston and Castleton heading for Manchester Victoria. These three car DMUs were built especially for this route and were known as Calder Valley sets. They were used on most of the passenger services alongside other first generation units. There were few loco hauled passenger trains on this route in the 1980s as far as I can remember. Freight was in the hands of classes 25, 31,40,45,47,56.
     
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    A class 120 Cross Country DMU crossing the Rochdale Canal on the Calder Valley route in 1982. 0622tu301182.jpg
     
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    0519f151082.jpg There was a lot of coal traffic on the Calder Valley route bringing coal from the Yorkshire coal field into the Manchester area. This short branch went from Middleton Junction to Chadderton coal yard, about a mile away and was a regular job for an 08 shunter, collecting the empty wagons from the yard and propelling full ones dropped off by a westbound coal train. It wasn't just shunters though, I've seen class 25s and even class 40s going up there over very overgrown and dodgy track.
     
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    Might as well go to york
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    If Calder Valley Line where to be in game owners of NTP Class 45 & 47 together with DLC class 40 can use them here same with TVL Class 31 owner
     
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    I searched it up and conventiently found a Freedom of Information link. Network Rail conveniently replied and I have the following Information;

    Leeds - Man Vic:
    80.055km = 49.75 (Rounded to 5) miles
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Does that include Halifax and Bradford Stations the major cities pass Summit tunnel which is the Calder Valley Line equivalent to Standedge Tunnel Huddersfield Line the Northern Trans-Pennine route.
     
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    You can use the RailMiles Mileage Engine to find the distance between points on the British national rail network. It works it out via the shortest route, so you may have to break it up into smaller sections to get the lengths of specific routes.
     
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    Yeah, it's via Bradford. Network Rail calculated it as Leeds - Bradford & Bradford - Man Vic.

    But they included a full length with it.
     
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