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PlayStation Camera Not Allowed In Tunnels.

Discussion in 'Technical Reports' started by Tonto62, Nov 26, 2020.

  1. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member

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    Please can this be fixed? I'm not in the habit of going through Standedge tunnel on the outside of the train but it would be nice to observe the train passing through short tunnels, near Mossley for example, without being thrown unceremoniously back into the driving seat.
     
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  2. stujoy

    stujoy Well-Known Member

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    100% behind you on this. Any part of your train in the tunnel blocks out all your external and headout cameras, leading to much unhappiness when wanting to watch your train disappear into or emerge from the tunnel.

    This issue was brought up shortly after the release of TSW2 and as yet no explanation as to why it is as it is, or if it can or will be fixed.
     
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  3. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member

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    I like to position the outside camera just behind the locomotive in the six foot as if leaning out of the front window. It's more immersive to me as I've never been on a diesel footplate and the sounds are usually better. That's what I was doing this morning, trying out the class 40, expecting the noise level to increase dramatically as the train entered the tunnel and bang......back in the room. It really needs looking at.
     
  4. Snek

    Snek Well-Known Member

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    In TSW1 you could always use external cameras in tunnels and it worked fine. They removed that with TSW2 for no apparent reason and it's pretty annoying (especially on SPG where it takes ages for the back of the train to exit the tunnel).
    Also, all echo in tunnels and underpasses dissapeared in TSW2. Running through all the tunnels on RSN makes no difference in sound at all like it used to in TSW1. This is another huge downgrade and quite immersion breaking for me.
     
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  5. L89

    L89 Well-Known Member

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    Tunnel cameras in TSW1 often clipped outside the tunnels unless you positioned the camera before entering. It wasn't great but I do miss just watching a train enter and leave a tunnel.
     
  6. Dallas117

    Dallas117 Active Member

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    I've been complaining about his since the game came out, I don't think they want to change it back, and i really really don't like it, makes me not even want to play 2 really
     
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  7. stujoy

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    That’s the reason they keep giving in the streams but I don’t think that it’s a full answer. I think it’s because they disabled external cameras for the tight tunnels in Bakerloo and had to do it globally instead of just in that route. If it was due to clipping outside all tunnels they would have disabled it in TSW2020 long ago. If Bakerloo hadn’t been made, we would still have external cameras in (and just outside) tunnels. They need to develop a system where it is the camera that can’t be in the tunnel rather than any part of the train in a tunnel blocking all external cameras. That would work for both us and them.
     
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  8. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member

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    Provided the camera doesn't contact the tunnel wall it should remain operational. I can see it would be a constant problem in the underground line but on the offside of a train in a double track tunnel there is no reason to disable the camera and we should have the choice to position a camera there as we had in the old game.
     
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  9. Snek

    Snek Well-Known Member

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    That almost never happened to me, I have tons of TSW1 screenshots of locos in RSN's tunnels so that couldn't have been the problem. The fact they removed cameras for BKL is a much more likely reason they did it and it's quite a shame really.
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  10. Dallas117

    Dallas117 Active Member

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    Ya exactly I did that all the time, and now when I see a tunnel coming I just get sad and upset, where I used to get excited, cool way to enhance the game experience....
     
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  11. MYG92

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    Oh man I thought I was playing MSTS haha
     
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    federicodiliberto2001 Well-Known Member

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    At least on MSTS you could use the 2 view as soon as the first loco/car got out of the tunnel :)
     
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  13. Rudolf

    Rudolf Well-Known Member

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    It is clearly changed. Probably for the Bakerloo Line. It is a bit of an annoying change and not necessary, especially because the whole train must have left the tunnel before the cameras work again.

    I support that this should be fixed.
     
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  14. MYG92

    MYG92 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly you have to leave completely the tunnel to be in exterior view and it’s really annoying when using SPG with long consists
     
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  15. Dallas117

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    ya it doesn't make sense at all, like I said it really takes me away from the experience, which is their goal...
     

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