Thanks for the discussions, everyone. Cargo Line Vol.3 Intermodal was intended to be released by now but has been delayed by issues outside of our control. It is well advanced though and will still be the next release in the series. We fully understand the sentiment regarding the inclusion of 'another' 66, but this is a requirement set by DTG that all rolling stock packs must be usable without the need to own anything else. We cannot reference the version included in the Training Centre because sitting in core TSW if DTG change or upgrade it for whatever reason in the future, this may impact its compatibility with our Cargo Line range. Additionally, we must work on the basis that any one of the Cargo Line packs may be the first one a player owns and thus we cannot reference prior Class 66s in future releases. We are however working on ensuring it will not always be a Class 66 going forward. Doesn’t TSW already have a container wagon and is this just a reskin? To date, all UK container wagons have been a duplicate of the FKA 'MegaFret' twin wagon originally released with Great Western Express in 2017. This wagon is very low to the rail and generally carries one centrally located 40ft HiCube container. There have been some minor improvements over the years, but nothing overly discernible. https://flic.kr/p/2jhYFoq There is certainly not just one type of wagon capable of carrying shipping containers operating across the UK rail network. Indeed, the first letter of the wagon designation 'F' is in reference to 'Flat' meaning a deck cable of carrying a container (amongst many commodities). Of this F category there are many variants (some here: https://tinyurl.com/27bseezy) that split between different operators or because they carry containers in different ways. It is not uncommon for different designs to appear within the same train (though this is affected by the train operator and which designs they own). Cargo Line Vol.3 Intermodal provides a brand-new design completely different to any in TSW already. Namely the FCA Bogie Container Twin. This design features a central 'spine' beam with container mounting points and equipment extruding out on arms. https://flic.kr/p/NLyvJM This design can carry a multitude of container sizes meaning trains appear much more varied (and realistic) when viewed. Therefore, we believe this will add great value to all modern UK rail enthusiasts wishing to increase the realism of their TSW experience. Finally, regarding comments about train length, Cargo Line Vol.3 Intermodal provides trains of 24, 28 and 32 wagon lengths, and feature random container spawning so that no two trains are the same. This all makes for challenging driving experiences, something which we strive for with the Cargo Line series. https://flic.kr/p/2qwrEX7 Hope that helps. All the best!
Also a good site to look at: https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/F Will they appear in mixed rakes with the FKAs, as I think they may do on the DB intermodal trains?
Thank you, it would certainly be an added bonus if that was implemented. Looking forward to some more variety with this and future wagon packs!
It's a shame there's only two branded containers after we lost the Hamburg Sud license, I know a lot of people would be against it but me personally I wouldn't mind some well-made fictional brands to slap on the containers to make it feel more "busy"
Honestly I wouldn't mind fictional liveries for containers. I personally don't really know any of them that show up so I'd probably pass it off as legit if I saw it.
I didn't know anything about this. I had noticed that they were missing in the last Frankfurt route but I thought it was just an error because the layer was not enabled or something similar. Has DTG confirmed this at some point?
I would still like to see a Cargo Volume pack based on Coal operations and have the track opened up and fully accesible at Ratcliffe Power Station, having the power station included in timetable mode would be a really good enhancement
Hopefully. If all previous Cargo Volumes layer onto the MML, and another is planned, it would all line up nicely!
I've already suggested something like (a UK coal MGR route) this in the Future Suggestions thread a couple of weeks ago (it got zero uplikes though...) I'd pay top dollar to run a 56 around a loop all day feeding a power station just in time (Whose demand on coal is variable as the eleccy demand varies) . You can add the 08 and 37s for shunting duties for loading empty coal wagons etc. You've just got to watch the Peak Forest YT channels to see how interesting it could be
As I've said previously, this really needs a new loco to be of any real interest. Not being negative, just how I see things.
i take it that if the 66 was anything other than db/ews it would require licencing. be good if it was one of the Maritime painted loco that db operate. anything other than red
DTG just acquired the Freightliner license. The branding can already be seen on the intermodal wagons and containers in WCML Shap, and on its showcase stream Matt said that the license covers all of Freightliner up to the green and yellow livery, the only thing still out of reach is the newest orange one. So if it has to be a 66, finally giving us a Freightliner version would definitely add to the appeal. Rivet already did the external bodywork modifications with the ONE variant, namely the modified headlights.
Hiya, Just to confirm that the next two Cargo Line packs are sufficiently advanced that we cannot take advantage of this new development. It is indeed great news for forward developments that we can consider a wider pool of operators and vehicles for projects. I look forward to what the future holds. Cheers
Can I ask why? Intermodal's aren't pulled with 56's or 60's, and as far as I'm aware they never have on a regular basis. 56's were mainly for coal traffic and 60's for bulk materials.
I didn’t realise the wider branding had been approved. That’s certainly exciting, opening up enormous possibilities. I look forward to the hopefully countless other Cargo line packs!
Bit of a shame, Freightliner are pretty synonymous with intermodal trains, but perfectly understandable. Probably take a new route to introduce them properly.
Even if the up to date Freightliner branding was available to use and I don't believe it is as right now, it's the 80s and early 90s version only. The front ends of the class 66s would need external work to the headlight clusters to be correct. You can't just reskin the DB EWS 66s.
The freightliner license, as Matt explained in the Shap preview, goes from the British Rail era Freightliner to as recently as the green and yellow paintwork. The only branding excluded from the license is the newest Genesee & Wyoming orange.
But if a Freightliner could line freight, and a Freightliner would line freight, how much freight would a Freightliner line?
I think the real, hard hitting question we need to be asking ourselves is should Freightliners line Freight?
If a Freightliner should line freight, and a Freightliner could line freight, and a Freightliner would line freight, how much freight should a Freightliner line and how much freight would a Freightliner line?
Ah yes, but will they line Freight? Either way, I think we’ve all established the fact that if they ever will, the answer is most certainly potato.
