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Clinchfield Railroad - Hauling Freight And Scenarios

Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG JD, Mar 18, 2021.

  1. Challenger3985

    Challenger3985 Well-Known Member

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    Built from Feb. 1949, the same month the F3s were at the end of production (with the Phase V models being their last).
     
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    appledates#4945 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the reply, now that I look closer, was that a California Zephyr back? Is that the same as an F7? I also found this little tidbit of info about Clinchfield. Is that a steam train? Potentially one we could be using on this route one day? 584ECAFA-EBB4-4103-97B7-F8DF6BF38A66.jpeg
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    (Drawing of an F7 and how diesels work!)
     
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  3. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    I highly doubt that TSW2 will see steam for the Clinchfield route, due to the large locomotives that the Clinchfield usually used (Which were all retired by the 50s)

    The closest surviving example would be the Clinchfield E3 Class Challengers, which were ex- Rio Grande L97 Challengers, which are nearly identical to Union Pacifics Challengers.

    Rio Grande L97 Challenger
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    Clinchfield E3 Challenger
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    Union Pacific Challenger #3985, wearing Clinchfield #676 paint for a special excursion in the 90s.
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  4. appledates#4945

    appledates#4945 Well-Known Member

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    It looks like a monster. So even when steam arrives, there is a big chance we wouldn’t see this in particular. Okay thank you for helping!
     
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    1949. Although several of CRR's F7s started life as F3s (1945-49); EMD would happily upgrade older locos to the newer standard.
     
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    Well I don't see anything about when it debuted but I see when it was first produced 1939 some of the first f units
     
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  7. Sharon E

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    Per good old Wikipedia 2/49 was the beginning of production and it lasted until 12/53.
     
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    According to the numerous articles and previews that we have been able to taste this DLC promises to be one of the best ever. I hope that the technical and visual quality seen in this new section will become a standard for future works.
    And yes, it's time to go back to the PC.
     
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    A poor provocateur :D

    For me, it is also the premiere of an unexpected format. CRR is not out of context, and even the mood of this historic route is skillfully constructed.

    PS This is probably the first time I feel someone is trying to sell me a complete vision at TSW.
     
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  10. solicitr

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    It's an indication of how fast US railroads dieselized in the early 50s to realize that the F7 was only built from 1949-1953, yet represents over half of all the F-units ever sold. Meanwhile, the contemporary GP7 was the best-selling EMD locomotive to this very day.
     
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    Yes, the F7 is considered by many as the locomotive which really kicked off the diesel era in the US. F units in general are some of the longest serving locos, even Amtrak had a variant. Many "covered wagons" survive around the country, mostly in museums and many are still operational at 70 years old. Things to think about when you're sitting in the CRR F7 cab.
     
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    Over in another thread, I posted a photo of an F7 that was finally retired (by MARC) in 2010! Although its last three decades of service were actually as an unpowered cab car, but still.....
     
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    Dieselization would have happened even faster in the US were it not for the war. GM/EMD's demonstrator A-B-B-A set (FT No. 103) wowed railroad executives around the country in 1939 by easily matching or exceeding the performance of steam engines for vastly lower operating cost. (http://www.oil-electric.com/2011/03/ft-103-diesel-that-did-it.html) But once the war started (for the US) in late 1941, the War Production Board directed all diesel engine production to the military, and allowed the construction of steam locomotives only.
     
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    Not to mention EMD were allowed to construct mainline diesels during the war, while Alco and Baldwin were stuck making steam locomotives, giving EMD and their F units a head start post WW2.
     
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  16. bakedpotatos.jm

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    This route is absolutely is stunning.

    Unfortunately I don't enjoy freight so I won't be purchasing anytime soon, but it makes me very excited to see what they come up with for Hamburg - Lubeck and Cathcart Circle. As it seems each route just gets better and better with every new release.

    I'm sure there will be a sale in a year or so. Then I'll grab it just to ride in the caboose or I'll finally have freight figured out by then. Who knows maybe I could get a Xbox series X if they finally get into stores by then.
     
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